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Pakar Ilusi
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Thanks to America's Got Talent (and the likes) it seems that now your show must wow in less than 90 seconds or you're deemed not talented.

Take it as you please...

This might be good or bad depending on your act.

But the general TV audience at least, have been fed this logic.

So be prepared.
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There is a degree of truth to this.

I don't think Chan Canasta or David Berglas would last too long on shows like Britain's Got Talent. But then again, I rather suspect they would have too much class to touch such shows with a barge pole.
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Yes.

Mentalists can do well there but I think there are better performing venues.
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Ninety seconds is only a barrier if you want to perform in talent shows.
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On 2013-06-20 13:21, mastermindreader wrote:
Ninety seconds is only a barrier if you want to perform in talent shows.


Excluding porn talent shows.
(you may laugh, but they're coming....let me rephrase that....
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LOL!
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I don't know that the 90 second limit is strictly enforced though, as there have been exceptions, notably in the "outdoor" stunt acts. The escape artist Alexanderia, for example, spend more than 90 seconds under water, and that was AFTER the process of chaining her up.
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On 2013-06-20 13:21, mastermindreader wrote:
Ninety seconds is only a barrier if you want to perform in talent shows.


While I agree, my point is more on the mindset of TV audiences nowadays.

Especially those into the reality TV talent shows.
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Yes, Pakar, but the mindset is one of an audience watching talent shows. That has no relation to what they would expect when watching a show featuring a single professional performer.
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On 2013-06-20 14:23, mastermindreader wrote:
Yes, Pakar, but the mindset is one of an audience watching talent shows. That has no relation to what they would expect when watching a show featuring a single professional performer.


I agree, but still worth noting that if you could just do a quick effect or whatever (music, video etc.) within those first 90 seconds of being in front of them, you've 'got' them. At least the ones who think this way.

I do it with the music choice, but it is very cultural based as I play a Shamanistic character. The song is an actual ritualistic song here in my culture.

But certainly, this is just my opinion. Smile
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Like the new avatar Mr. Cassidy!
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[quote]On 2013-06-20 14:29, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
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I do it with the music choice, but it is very cultural based as I play a Shamanistic character. The song is an actual ritualistic song here in my culture.



One could view that if you use a ritualistic song to influence a person you ARE being a Shaman rather than acting like one; or conversely, "playing a Shamanistic character" is part of what being a Shaman is.

To understand what any culture considers to be magic in any form is wise. You can't pretend at being a tennis player if a culture has no concept of what tennis is.
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[quote]On 2013-06-21 04:41, funsway wrote:
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On 2013-06-20 14:29, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
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I do it with the music choice, but it is very cultural based as I play a Shamanistic character. The song is an actual ritualistic song here in my culture.



One could view that if you use a ritualistic song to influence a person you ARE being a Shaman rather than acting like one; or conversely, "playing a Shamanistic character" is part of what being a Shaman is.

To understand what any culture considers to be magic in any form is wise. You can't pretend at being a tennis player if a culture has no concept of what tennis is.


Ahh, I see you see what I'm doing. Nice.

I'm exposing Shamans in my culture by doing what they do but telling it for what it is.

Mind games using illusions of perception.

But that's for another thread funsway. Smile

We're talking 90 second mindsets here. Smile
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I'm not so sure that general TV audience buys this logic. If the show is good, the audience has a remarkably long attention span.
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On 2013-06-21 06:13, erikdobell wrote:
I'm not so sure that general TV audience buys this logic. If the show is good, the audience has a remarkably long attention span.


If you catch them at the first 90 seconds.

And...

I'm only talking about new acts of course...

Those shows with a following already have no such problem, as they've 'proven' themselves to be worth waiting for in whatever terms.
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Thread too long. Didn't read.
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On 2013-06-21 06:34, MatCult wrote:
Thread too long. Didn't read.


:applause:
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Why would ANYONE go on <country>'s Got Talent in the first place?
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For an intro, 90 seconds is an excruciatingly long time to let pass without something happening.

However, if you create a suspenseful situation, people will wait much longer than 90 seconds for resolution.
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On 2013-06-21 08:25, Jon_Thompson wrote:
Why would ANYONE go on <country>'s Got Talent in the first place?


to get rich and famous!! or something like that anyway Smile
here is an example of the deal a winner can expect

"'But then I found out that Simon's company takes 90 per cent of the revenue. I get ten per cent. But I have to pay the production costs out of that. So I ended up owing them money.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/art......WrE0JI38
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