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Except for the Chevy Corvair and Peter Lemongello, the human species has been a failed experiment. To every thing there is a season.....
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To every thing there is a season.....

Wait . . . you're getting all Biblical on us?
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I enjoy the hypocrisy of those so offended by words being so quick to call names and hurt with words.


I feel it necessary to mention I do NOT mean John.
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I guess I am just a moron. I couldn't tell you how many people of which race color or creed I know. They are people. Never occured to me to take a tally or even consider it.
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I enjoy the hypocrisy of those so offended by words being so quick to call names and hurt with words.

I feel it necessary to mention I do NOT mean John.

I never suspected that you did. I'll go out on a limb and speculate that nobody else did.
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In one of my classes we had an older African-American (how he chose to self-identify) guy from the south who is now a successful attorney here tell us his life story and the cultural history of the N-word. I honestly hadn't thought that much about the word myself before that. I figured it was just the same as cracker or something to that effect. But as he told his story half of the room was in tears. They were still doing lynchings when he was a kid and his mother drove by and he saw those bodies in the trees and heard that word used in connection with that. There were obstacles he had to overcome to get where he's at because racism is still alive and well, just much more insidious. It's not the word that hurts, it's all of the memories of degradation that the word is tied to. The very fact that the word means nothing to so many people is what was so offensive to him. And, yes, he was equally as saddened by the thug culture kids of his own race using it.

You don't know how it feels. You can sit there and say "it's just another word" but you're doing it from a place of ignorance because you don't have to live with everything tied to it. I don't know either. I just caught a glimpse through his eyes, but I got to leave that room in my white skin.
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I enjoy the hypocrisy of those so offended by words being so quick to call names and hurt with words.


I feel it necessary to mention I do NOT mean John.


So who did you mean? Smile
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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In one of my classes we had an older African-American (how he chose to self-identify) guy from the south who is now a successful attorney here tell us his life story and the cultural history of the N-word. I honestly hadn't thought that much about the word myself before that. I figured it was just the same as cracker or something to that effect. But as he told his story half of the room was in tears. They were still doing lynchings when he was a kid and his mother drove by and he saw those bodies in the trees and heard that word used in connection with that. There were obstacles he had to overcome to get where he's at because racism is still alive and well, just much more insidious. It's not the word that hurts, it's all of the memories of degradation that the word is tied to. The very fact that the word means nothing to so many people is what was so offensive to him. And, yes, he was equally as saddened by the thug culture kids of his own race using it.

You don't know how it feels. You can sit there and say "it's just another word" but you're doing it from a place of ignorance because you don't have to live with everything tied to it. I don't know either. I just caught a glimpse through his eyes, but I got to leave that room in my white skin.

I wish that I had been there.

My wife told me of a incident in the U.S. Navy in which a white seaman was (if I recall correctly) brought up on charges for using that word, when black seamen used it commonly. The commander's view was pretty simple (and shrewd): if you're going to use that word, than anyone can use that word. Stop wasting my time.

I was reared by a bigot, whose mother was a bigot. I recall vividly at my second "real" job, having a coworker tell me that I was the least-bigoted person he'd ever met. That stunned me.
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Yea stories. Teachers tell them to make a point. If you listen to everyone's stories you would imagine lynchings happened every hour of every day.

As reprehensible as it was it was also far from the norm.

So if it is possible lets not get caught up in unsubstantiated stories. It is too emotional. It is too hot button.

Rather than dealing with stories from when nobody was alive why not deal with the VERY real problems as they exist? Rather the han looning back and lamenting the past why not see how much progress has been made since then? We elected a multi race man to the hi ghest office in the land. TWICE!

Not much forward progress can be made looking backwards. When someone does what she dI'd the people speak. The system works. Keep moving forward.
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By the way what part of Canada was that picture taken?


It's in Africa. The pic was too good not to use.


Can't see the back of the jersey...how do we know it's a white player?


Statistical inference.


Surely you didn't misspell "RACIAL PROFILING"?!
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Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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By the way what part of Canada was that picture taken?

It's in Africa. The pic was too good not to use.

Can't see the back of the jersey...how do we know it's a white player?

Statistical inference.

Surely you didn't misspell "RACIAL PROFILING"?!

Perhaps his iPad rivals yours.
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Maybe it was a Georges Laraque jersey after all.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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Paula Deen may have been fried but she will always be a griller.
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Yea stories. Teachers tell them to make a point. If you listen to everyone's stories you would imagine lynchings happened every hour of every day.

As reprehensible as it was it was also far from the norm.

So if it is possible lets not get caught up in unsubstantiated stories. It is too emotional. It is too hot button.

Rather than dealing with stories from when nobody was alive why not deal with the VERY real problems as they exist? Rather the han looning back and lamenting the past why not see how much progress has been made since then? We elected a multi race man to the hi ghest office in the land. TWICE!

Not much forward progress can be made looking backwards. When someone does what she did the people speak. The system works. Keep moving forward.


Tuskegee Institute has documented more than 3,450 lynchings of Black people in the United States from 1890's-1960's. Each one of those murdered had family and friends, and people who knew of them. These acts were meant to be terrorizing, and they were.

The terrorists of the Ku Klux Klan used kidnapping, beatings and murder to keep black folk "in their place." The laws of the land and the officers of the law supported this activity. It was a horrible, horrible system. It is gone, but should never be forgotten.

Lynchings were not just a part of the distant past for those of us who grew up in the South before Civil Rights legislation.

These photos will give you some idea of the "unsubstantiated stories" of lynchings, just google images of "black lynchings in the south" and you will find plenty of photographic evidence of the extent of lynchings of blacks in the recent past.
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Words matter. When I was growing up, bird was the word. It was so powerful, they made it into a song.

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Yes and don't the powers that be know it. And don't they know well how to use them words to their advantage. Yes and also don't they know how to use them words that are just words, because are they just words. Yes because they know how fact and fiction work but the the question is, do you?
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Yea stories. Teachers tell them to make a point. If you listen to everyone's stories you would imagine lynchings happened every hour of every day.

As reprehensible as it was it was also far from the norm.

So if it is possible lets not get caught up in unsubstantiated stories. It is too emotional. It is too hot button.

Rather than dealing with stories from when nobody was alive why not deal with the VERY real problems as they exist? Rather the han looning back and lamenting the past why not see how much progress has been made since then? We elected a multi race man to the hi ghest office in the land. TWICE!

Not much forward progress can be made looking backwards. When someone does what she did the people speak. The system works. Keep moving forward.


Tuskegee Institute has documented more than 3,450 lynchings of Black people in the United States from 1890's-1960's. Each one of those murdered had family and friends, and people who knew of them. These acts were meant to be terrorizing, and they were.

The terrorists of the Ku Klux Klan used kidnapping, beatings and murder to keep black folk "in their place." The laws of the land and the officers of the law supported this activity. It was a horrible, horrible system. It is gone, but should never be forgotten.

Lynchings were not just a part of the distant past for those of us who grew up in the South before Civil Rights legislation.

These photos will give you some idea of the "unsubstantiated stories" of lynchings, just google images of "black lynchings in the south" and you will find plenty of photographic evidence of the extent of lynchings of blacks in the recent past.

How many people of color are murdered every year now? More than 57 I bet right?
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This isn't about murder, Danny. It is about lynchings. It is different.
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In many ways yes and in many ways no Pop. Seriously. It is about terror. I get that.
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