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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
Check out The latest and greatest section on Inexplicable. Finally getting some reviews of people who are actually performing this. All good BTW. And no mention of people asking about a suspicious looking envelope.
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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
[quote]On 2013-07-19 13:15, RNK wrote:
Check out The latest and greatest section on Inexplicable. Finally getting some reviews of people who are actually performing this. All good BTW. And no mention of people asking about a suspicious looking envelope. Great second post, Eh Nicolino? RNK
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Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts |
I wasn't refering to your post, RNK.
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
The envelope idea is good, but I would joke around or have aline ready like you sealed the envelope by mistake before putting the card so you cut it in half just in case.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2013-07-13 06:19, Mykyndryd wrote: Not quite. It will depend greatly on someone's experience with this particular plot as to how fast they can perform this after opening it up. The envelope isn't gaffed and there are no sleights, but it requires reading instructions ( 20 people just removed it from their cart ). |
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Shufton Veteran user California 306 Posts |
Great to hear that folks who are performing Inexplicable are having great results, and lots of fun with it. JSBloom,in so many hundreds of performances, no one has ever had an issue with the envelope. I think other performers would concur. Of course, it is great to be prepared, but I think after you try it, you will see that there is no issue.
I am receiving very complimentary mail each day from folks who are performing this effect. Not a bad word (yet!). Here is one I received yesterday from a fellow in Anaheim California: "Want to thank you for a very practical and strong effect. I have performed the effect a dozen times for magicans and college students. A Home Run Every Performance! It is a pleasure to perform. Easy instructions and info. Received high praise from many who have compared this to other ACAAN's (seen in past performances) and your Inexplicable was by far the favorite of many of them. Thanks again. Keep up the good work and congratulations on an excellent and baffling card effect." - Steve K. Also got this from the U.K.: "I performed Inex for the great grandson of the composer Sibelius yesterday(!!) he went bright red, kissed me and has spent all his time since describing it to his mates." - Troy D. Thanks and best wishes to all- -Steve
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
Congratulations, Shufton. Inexplicable is one of best tricks I've ever bought/performed. I've always loved the plot, but being a Hobbyist, I wasn't always prepared to carry a special deck and wallet. With Inexplicable, I can use a regular deck and the little black envelope goes right in my everyday wallet. :thumbsup: |
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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
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On 2013-07-20 20:40, Zombie Magic wrote: DITTO. This who have frequently performed this know and understand its capabilities and extreme potential.... RNK
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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
Just an idea for those who are using this. I have found that "Inexplicable goes great with "The Crusade". I have been doing Inexplicable first then going right into The Crusade and I can't tell you after performing those two effects together how the audience looks at you when your done. They really start thinking you have these extraterrestrial powers. Now- those who fear of not hitting in Inexplicable - a simple out is to go right into The Crusade. The specs simply dealt a random number of cards into a pile- if your card doesn't hit (which has never happened to me!) you can simply use the pile of cards to go right into The Crusade. As far as the envelope- I don't even say anything about it- I just pull it out and place it on the table then go right into the routine. If you hit- people already know that envelope has been sitting in front of them the whole time and will acknowledge that it has been! But as I stated before- I have never missed with Inexplicable. I think it's because of the phycology of the card placement Steve has delivered. There is so much phycology to this effect it's brilliant. I think people really overlook that fact. But that is OK. Every effect is not for every person.
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Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts |
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On 2013-07-22 11:00, RNK raved: You really think it's an evolution to the 1940 reference to get so excited about it?? Can you elaborate, please? Quote:
I think people really overlook that fact. But that is OK. Every effect is not for every person. Thanks for your magnanimity. However, to the best of my knowledge, the sceptics in Latest & Greatest weren't criticising the selection process so far - why would they? It's a clever, true and tested method. Their objections were aimed at the 'paper hull', refered to as 'envelope'.
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Dark Knight Loyal user My troops are stationed at 272 Posts |
As I wrote in the other (very long) thread on this trick, in Al Mann's "50 Miracles with the 5-Star Miracle Deck" at page 4: double-ender cards are discussed (for example, 8S/7S and 6H/8H, which are placed in a Double Envelope) and, on the same page, a one-card solution is offered (a DF Double-ender, which can show as 4 different cards, depending on how it is held).
Now, as for the psychological Stop force, on page 330 of "Expert Card Technique" (1954 Faber ed.) is described "The Psychic Stop!" in which the S stops counting right at his chosen card. I have my own variation of this that virtually guarantees the spectator stops among a bank of 8 or ten cards--I'm sure that would be very useful for the Shufton trick! The whole issue of invention is a very cloudy one, indeed. Did you ever see the Greg Kinnear film, "Flash of Genius"? (It's the one about Robert Kearns and his legal battle against the Ford Motor Company when they developed an intermittent windshield wiper based on ideas the inventor had patented.) Combining ideas taken from others is what inventors do. Of course, independent invention and "re-invention" happen all the time, too. I don't know enough about "Inexplicable" to say whether Shufton's creation is a "flash of genius" or not. DK |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
To add to DK's posting, I have no comment on this particular effect (I don't own it), but on what constitutes genius in general. In my opinion, Steve Jobs had it, yet Apple took many ideas created by others and combined them in a new and user-friendly ways. I believe that some magic inventors display genius in that way, and I have great respect for them. Now back to your regularly scheduled program of arguing.
P.S. - I recently created an effect that combines another magician's effect with a method that a different magician created for entirely different effects. In my opinion, the combination turns a really good effect into something that's absolutely mind-blowing. Will I ever market it? I'll likely just have one made for myself and never market it because my guess is that one of the other magicians wouldn't approve of me marketing a different approach to his effect. Really a shame, not because of potential money that I could make (I don't rely on magic as my primary source of income, so I'm fine without the additional income), but because I can almost guarantee that most magicians would consider it a pretty significant contribution to the art and would line up to purchase it to improve their acts. Magic isn't treated like most other businesses. |
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2013-07-22 13:10, Nicolino wrote: Yesterday I made an envelope out of construction paper for an idea about tearing the envelope that a Café member suggested. Today I found some standard black envelopes just a bit larger than a playing card. I only want them to try the tearing the envelope open idea. I'm not sure why the envelope that comes with the trick has ever been an issue. Jay Sankey released his Omnilope ( there's a Café thread on it ). A Café member was going off that he's from the UK and the envelopes don't look like any envelope from his country ( typical magician thinking ) and just kept his blowhole spouting about it. Bill Palmer posts and said he received renewal notice for a magazine subscription from the UK.....in the same type of envelope used in Omnilope. |
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
Larry,
Is it from an one armed magician named Sam? Jeff |
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Mykyndryd New user 2 Posts |
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On 2013-07-19 22:37, Zombie Magic wrote: True - I'm getting a 'geek' complex here cos I read them. (I also read the manual that came with the PC - I'd better make an appointment lol) |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
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On 2013-07-23 05:51, JSBLOOM wrote: :baby: |
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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
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On 2013-07-22 13:10, Nicolino wrote: They were criticizing the whole effect from the envelope to "set-up" to "memorization" to "worried about hitting the card" etc... Those criticism's are all over the thread! RNK
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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
[quote]On 2013-07-22 13:10, Nicolino wrote:
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On 2013-07-22 11:00, RNK raved: You really think it's an evolution to the 1940 reference to get so excited about it?? Can you elaborate, please? [quote] Please read my threads more carefully. Never in any of my posts did I say "Steve has created this NEW approach in having a card dealt to and stopped at. I simply stated that he used this approach while others can't see this and the value and psychology behind his thought process. That's not stating that the process was Steve's original idea. RNK
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Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts |
I read well. You said 'delivered', not 'used'. For me that's not the same.
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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
Nor did I say NEW!
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