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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-07-14 17:44, JTW wrote: Well said |
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-07-14 21:32, fonda57 wrote: I don't know where you can find it because The 2 versions I have are published in french : - Harry Lorayne in "The very best of Harry Lorayne" (Unlike the title may us think, it's a french book - a selection) - Michael vincent in "Michael Vincent séminaire" : a videotape (before DVD area) I used to do MV's version but I have not practice it for a long time now. Maybe magicians can help you find the english version ... You can also ask Harry for his version. Sure, he knows where it is published |
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-07-14 23:57, Harry Lorayne wrote: No problem Harry, I just think a moment I lost memory because I could'nt remember where I said your trick was boring |
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-07-15 06:22, Vlad_77 wrote: Magic is a performing art. Yes I remember ...(see below) "Presentation/patter/character" is the way to access to magic I used to do card tricks which need a good technique, and one day, (why? I don't really know), I made a choise and remember the first tricks I learned. Because it was not the internet area and it was far more difficult than now to find information about Magic, I practiced and tried to find the right way (for me) to perform them. So, in memory of the good old days, I decided to put away some tricks and practice only a few tricks trying to recover the sensation I had when I only knew a few card tricks. The answer I find is to give my routine an atmosphere of mystery (not puzzle but mystery). That's the way I like to present routine, that's my character. Can we take any trick and make it feet our character? That's an other question... |
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Philip Busk Loyal user 229 Posts |
Card on ceiling simply because I'm rarely in the right venue. Love the effect but putting a card on someones ceiling or asking them to come out in the garage so I can show them a great effect not so much.
I've plowed through a lot of effects over the years and only like a few enough to practice to perfection and make my own. Most of these effects I read are pretty good and when I see the author perform them they are wonderful; so yes, only a few fit me, my style/persona, working conditions, etc.
Philip Busk
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fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3078 Posts |
T-formation and three cards on the aces---those are hands in a game. Or--the leader ace is onstage and ready to do a magic show and the other aces--magicians--are in the audience and the audience is made up of other cards, and they magically join him on stage. There's lots of reasons to make up for the other cards being there.
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
I quit making lists like this. Here's why:
For a long time, I didn't perform any Out of this World/Out of this Universe effects. My reasons? 1a. Lots of people know how the original Paul Curry version is done. (If you don't think this is true, you're not paying attention.) 1b. Smart people can re-construct the effect. (Yes, most people won't be able to re-construct it, but keep in mind that I hang around a lot of smart engineers and scientists.) 2. Too many people are already doing the trick. (And many of them in the same way.) 3. I wasn't able to see a good way to marry this trick to my character. (That's no longer a problem. But that's another story.) 4. There is an extensive set-up required. 5. There's way too much PROCESS in this trick. It takes too long to perform. 6. It doesn't play big; it's not a suitable trick for a parlor environment. Almost every time that I dismiss a trick, no matter what the reasons might be, I'll see another magician perform it in such a way that he shatters all of my objections. Derek Hughes has a parlor version of this effect that he used to close his show at the Magic Castle. It was masterfully performed, and he figured out brilliant solutions to every problem that I've ever seen with this effect. Al Baker was right when he said, "Most magicians quit thinking too soon."
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
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Steven Keyl Inner circle Washington, D.C. 2630 Posts |
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On 2013-07-15 06:59, Jiceh wrote: As a general rule I don't like spelling tricks either but this is the exception. It's one of my favorite tricks to do when someone hands me a shuffled deck and says "show me something..." As far as a reference, it can be found in "The Classic Magic of Michael Vincent" and is called "Intuition Speller". http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/1956
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-07-15 12:35, BarryFernelius wrote: If I was a professional magician, I don't think I use OOTW for more or less the same reasons |
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Magic Pierre Loyal user 212 Posts |
Actually, I think Harry erred here. It was TKB who said that, not you, I think...
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Magic Pierre Loyal user 212 Posts |
Sorry, I see that's already been addressed.
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Barry, don't know what you mean by "Out of this Universe EFFECTS" (plural), there's only one Out of this Universe.
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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The pompous pumpkin remark to me was simply wonderful by the way. Your alliterative mastery is awe inspiring. When I grow up, I hope to achieve your linguistic acumen. Seriously, no flame! I am truly inspired such that I have decided, like you, to forego magic as you have because it is laborious, a hassle, inconvenient, fiddly, dangerous (that one really swayed me), long-winded, anti-climatic, dull, unconvincing, error-prone, tedious and pointless. It's a pity that I don't master english language because I would have liked to unsterstand the real meaning of this post |
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BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
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On 2013-07-15 16:10, Jiceh wrote: But the routine created by Derek Hughes has some nice advantages. 1. A spectator shuffles the cards. (In fact, before the process of having the assistants separate the colors, the last thing that happens is a spectator shuffle. From that point on, Derek does not pick up the deck.) 2. Derek's procedure and presentation doesn't mimic what anyone else is doing. 3. In fact, the routine fits Derek's character perfectly. 4. The less said about the set-up, the better. 5. Derek has two spectators help him. The process is entertaining and fast paced. 6. Finally, Derek's display of the cards at the end of the effect is very clear, and the color of each card is clearly visible to a parlor audience. Derek also knows how to pace the ending of the effect to obtain the maximum audience reaction. Derek's routine was so deceptive and entertaining that it made me want to work out a routine of my own.
"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time."
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
I'm sure it is a classic of magic.
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
My own 'Out Of This Dimension And Into A Parallel Universe' (OOTDAIAPU) might merit some study.
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
It's funny, but for lazy corner cutters, like me, any card game involving dealing hands can be turned into a demonstration of ridiculous skill with cards using one bold move and some blind shuffles. Doing this during a friendly game of Bridge, for example, is mind blowing.
The question is, do you want to show off your "knowledge", or do you want to make like Slydini and do some magic? If you do both, which some choose to do, then you'd better be very entertaining indeed. |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2013-07-15 18:58, tomsk192 wrote: How about this: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=37
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ZoOpDoG Veteran user All the cool people have 311 Posts |
I think it depends on the audience. ...for card guys its pretty unpredictable. Any effect with no patter and no routine would be what I would avoid. Nobody wants to watch someone silently pull aces out of a deck, no matter how cool the slights, other than people who are working on silently pulling aces out of a deck with cool slights but no patter and no routine. Only exception would be if the person was on tv and I don't consider anything edited to be magic. So - No routine and / or no patter, I avoid.
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-07-15 16:39, BarryFernelius wrote: Juan Tamariz has a stage routine which is a variation of OOTW. The method is different and the procedure is shorter than the usual one. I believe he published it in Sonata. |
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