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On 2013-07-18 18:04, Slide wrote:
"Should the profits go to the victims? "

Should the profits of CNN, the New York TImes, or any other publication go to the victims?

I don't get it: it is a magazine who wrote an article and put a photo on the cover like EVERY OTHER MAGAZINE IN THE WORLD.

When did we become such emotional cripples in this country.


Like you said. You don't get it. You are correct. You don't get it.
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On 2013-07-18 18:11, Slide wrote:
Aces,

I hope you were equally outraged when Fox News ran the exact same picture: http://nation.foxnews.com/dzhokhar-tsarn......-account
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Your kidding right? Did you see the enhancement in the photo on the Rolling Stone cover of the same photo? Do you even know what a publicity photo is? Please compare the two and then tell me they are the same and the Rolling Stone photo is not spruced up. If this scum bag was a rock star and they put the photo as you posted he would probably sue them. Please you can see the difference in the two photos and actually make my point for me. Thanks I guess.
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On 2013-07-18 10:22, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Is the picture somehow false? Should they photoshop horns and fangs? It's really him.


Compare the original photo that slide posted and The Rolliong Stone photo. You decide if it was doctored or not..
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Where can I read That story without buying the magazine?

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On 2013-07-18 10:22, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Is the picture somehow false? Should they photoshop horns and fangs? It's really him.



Compare the original photo that slide posted and The Rolliong Stone photo. You decide if it was doctored or not..

Here is the real picture. http://nation.foxnews.com/dzhokhar-tsarn......-account
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"Rolling Stone knew going in they would get kicked out by retailers," she said.
"What they get here is bigger than what they lose."

Rolling Stone, like most U.S. magazines, is subscription-driven.
According to ABC (Audit Bureau of Circulations), its newsstand sales are just 75,000
out of a total circulation of over 1.4 million last year.


http://www.nbcnews.com/business/bomber-c......10671779


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Oh wait here is a better one.

http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/......der?lite

Maybe not as cute. But it also depicts the real him.
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Maybe after the article is released tomorrow you could offer us your opinion on its content.
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On 2013-07-18 22:23, mastermindreader wrote:
Maybe after the article is released tomorrow you could offer us your opinion on its content.


To me the picture said enough. It was worth a thousand words. Maybe the article will cast him in a bad light. However the picture did not, and there are a lot of gullible people out there. Because of my stubbornness I will not buy the issue nor read the article. I know kind of hard headed. Does that surprise you? I should think not after all this time.
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On 2013-07-18 22:23, mastermindreader wrote:

Maybe after the article is released tomorrow you could offer us your opinion on its content.

I think it has already been available online for a day or two:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news......20130717
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On 2013-07-18 19:30, TomBoleware wrote:

"Rolling Stone knew going in they would get kicked out by retailers," she said.
"What they get here is bigger than what they lose."

Rolling Stone, like most U.S. magazines, is subscription-driven.
According to ABC (Audit Bureau of Circulations), its newsstand sales are just 75,000
out of a total circulation of over 1.4 million last year.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/bomber-c......10671779

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Husni also said there was a misconception that Rolling Stone is only about music and popular culture. "Rolling Stone is one of the few magazines still publishing in-depth and long-form investigative articles in the U.S.

"This is nothing new to Rolling Stone," he said of the magazine, which won a National Magazine Award for its 1970 prison interview with mass murderer Charles Manson, who was featured on the cover.

Two years ago, Rolling Stone's story on Gen. Stanley McChrystal, commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, included unflattering comments about Vice President Joe Biden and other White House House officials and led to McChrystal's resignation.

"Unfortunately, the public is emotionally driven and this mass hysteria is the biggest threat to journalism," said Husni. "This is not Kim Kardashian, this is a serious mag and journalists cannot be driven by public opinion. You can't allow the public to dictate what journalists do."

He said people were comparing the cover photo to Dylan or Morrison or Bono. "That's the problem. The glamorization of the photo shows that people did not read the article."
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On 2013-07-18 23:35, acesover wrote:
Because of my stubbornness I will not buy the issue nor read the article...


I'm sure that won't stop you from commenting on it. Smile
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On 2013-07-18 22:23, mastermindreader wrote:

Maybe after the article is released tomorrow you could offer us your opinion on its content.

I think it has already been available online for a day or two:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news......20130717


I always pick it up on the day it hits the newsstand. Didn't realize it was online already.
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[quote]On 2013-07-18 18:05, mastermindreader wrote:
It seems that many people who have never read Rolling Stone have opinions about it. For one, it's not a tabloid and has won many journalism awards.

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MMR, please see my post on another thread about opinions. In my opinion, tabloids typically print pictoral, sensational front pages. Parse it how you will, I've stated my opinion. Smile
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The Rolling Stone hasn't been published in tabloid format since the early 1970's. Since 1980 it has always been a magazine and, as such, has a cover, not a front page. That's a fact, not an opinion.

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The printed format has gone through several changes. The first publications in 1967–72, were folded tabloid newspaper format, no staples with black ink text, and a single color highlight that changed each edition. From 1973 on, editions were done on a four-color press with a different newsprint paper size. In 1979, the bar code appeared. In 1980, it became a gloss paper large format 10 x 12 magazine. As of October 30, 2008 edition, Rolling Stone is a smaller, standard-format magazine size.


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If Wiki says it then it must be a fact
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If Wiki says it then it must be a fact


You can find the same history in USA Today as well as on the Rolling Stone site. But since I've been reading the magazine since 1970, I can personally confirm that those changes in format over the years are accurate.

BTW- you are aware that Wikipedia, as a whole, has actually been rated more accurate than the Encyclopedia Britannica. (And it's certainly far more accurate that some of the sources you've cited in support of your conspiracy theories.)
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The Rolling Stone hasn't been published in tabloid format since the early 1970's. Since 1980 it has always been a magazine and, as such, has a cover, not a front page. That's a fact, not an opinion.

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The printed format has gone through several changes. The first publications in 1967–72, were folded tabloid newspaper format, no staples with black ink text, and a single color highlight that changed each edition. From 1973 on, editions were done on a four-color press with a different newsprint paper size. In 1979, the bar code appeared. In 1980, it became a gloss paper large format 10 x 12 magazine. As of October 30, 2008 edition, Rolling Stone is a smaller, standard-format magazine size.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_stone


You clearly missed my meaning in my tabloid statemnent. Define it as you will mechanically, as you cite in your Wikipedia reference.

It remains the same, regardless of print format, a tabloid. As other mechanically formatted magazines and newspapers retain their tabloid status. Smile And that's fact, not opinion.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about? Smile

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I didn't read this whole thread much less the article but I have to say "who cares"?

It is a picture of the guy. I am going to place a bet on Rolling Stone not glamorizing this guy.

It never ceases to amaze me what outrages people. Rolling Stone has a certain slant to it so automatically condemn them. While this saves time and even money because you avoid having to purchase anything often a salient point or two is missed.

Oh well.
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Bob1Dog-

You've acknowledged that you've never read the magazine. So your opinion is hardly well founded. (You know that old saying about not judging a book by its cover.)

Call it what you like. But perhaps you ought to read it first. Then, perhaps, your opinion might have some weight.

That said, the magazine is not a tabloid either in format or substance. Having been in the newspaper business I'm sure you know that it is NOT a tabloid in the literal sense. Having never read it, your conclusion that it engages in tabloid journalism can have no basis. It's just an unfounded opinion.

Why not read it first? (You are, after all, a reasonable person.) If, after you've done that, you come to the conclusion that it is tabloid journalism, then we'll have something worth discussing.

Good thoughts,

Bob
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