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overflow
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Did Penguin change the schedule ? I red somewhere that the Joshua Quinn was scheduled for the 4th August.

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It's right at the bottom of the Café screen. Devin Knight this Sunday.

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I have never seen Devin lecture so I do not have an opinion on his speaking skills. I can comment on Backstage monte and I think he did a good job on that effect. The old 3 card monte (Jumbo) with a flap, but with a kicker ending. Nice effect.
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On 2013-07-30 16:19, magicbyswh wrote:
I have never seen Devin lecture so I do not have an opinion on his speaking skills. I can comment on Backstage monte and I think he did a good job on that effect. The old 3 card monte (Jumbo) with a flap, but with a kicker ending. Nice effect.


Yes, the Backstage Monte is a nice effect. Simple to do, but it's a fooler. Works especially well when the final reveal ties back to an earlier effect.

I've always enjoyed reading Devin's manuscripts that come with his effects. They're generally full of subtleties and problem-solving insights that are useful to read whether or not you choose to perform the effect itself. He often goes into a great deal more detail than you'd expect in order to explain the effect and the principles and psychology behind it.

I purchased a large illusion from him a few months ago, and he took the time to drive a nine-hour roundtrip to my house in order to deliver it and demonstrate its handling. Plus he took the time to walk my assistant and me through his preferred handling for Tubed Out, which Devin used to manufacture; I had a used model in my basement but was never able to find a copy of the original instructions. Turns out that mine was a "clone" of the model he manufactured, but that didn't seem to matter to him. I gave him some money for gas and a little for his time, but he certainly didn't ask for it. Seemed happy just to share what he knew. And he made a point of teaching my son a card trick, which he's been practicing since.

Anyway, I'll definitely plan on watching Devin's lecture at some point.
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On 2013-07-30 16:06, overflow wrote:
Did Penguin change the schedule ? I red somewhere that the Joshua Quinn was scheduled for the 4th August.


Yes, it changed. Originally I was scheduled for the 4th and Devin was scheduled for the 11th, but I had a scheduling conflict pop up and Devin was kind enough to switch with me. So Devin's lecture is now on the 4th, and mine will be on the 11th. Looking forward to it!
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I spoke with Devin and I am excited about this lecture. There will be a lot of doable practical items shared
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On 2013-08-01 10:31, ted french wrote:
I spoke with Devin and I am excited about this lecture. There will be a lot of doable practical items shared


That's one thing I love about most of Devin's work- practical and workable effects!

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Ted, how much will require purchased props from him versus DIY ?
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The large majority of stuff will NOT require you to purchase any additional props. If you have to make something it will be very easy and come from stuff you have around your house. Like I said solid practical stuff. I'm looking forward to the ACAAN and also learning "Blind Sight".
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Thx...sounds like a winner
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Just wanted to say that I purchased Devin's "Autobend Silverware" last night and I love it! I went out and bought everything for 3 bucks. I made a few today and I LOVE playing with it. It's a really awesome tool.
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I was fortunate enough to see Devin lecture live a couple of years ago.

While he may not be the most dynamic performer out there he really does have some great ideas; he's a super nice chap too. I'll be tuning in on Sunday.

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I think Knight's taking his marbles and going home from the Café was a bit ill-timed given the timing of his Penguin lecture. That said, I note that "Blindsight" is on the program, and back around when I first joined the Café that was a really celebrated routine here and in the "Penny" section. I bought it, it's easily makeable yourself and it's a great piece. The first time I did it it felt like real magic -- which, that one time, it was, as the routine just played out without any of its trickery being required. (Those who have this routine will know what I mean.)
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On 2013-08-02 18:29, bugjack wrote:
I think Knight's taking his marbles and going home from the Café was a bit ill-timed given the timing of his Penguin lecture.


I agree.

I remember taking my ball home when the guys were all over me for not wearing Keds.

They just got themselves another ball.

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I buy a lot of Devin's magic. His releases are well thought out, usually with multiple kickers. He always includes history and ideas.
His Glassbox revisited has ideas for publicity that are brilliant. I think this lecture will be really good especially with all the naysayers around. Like a grudge match for magic!
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Why is it when members come on here and speak of their personal experiences that makes them naysayers?
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I wish Devin the best and hope he joins us back on the Café
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I know a lot of you guys out there think that I'm Debbie Downer, but I honestly hope the lecture is good.

All I can say is that he lectured at my IBM Ring about a year ago, and not one person I spoke to about it afterwards was satisfied with it. And I do talk to my pals about how they liked the lectures that we have. I do have pals, you know.

I looked up "Blindsight" to see if he did it there, and I'm certain that he did. It is quite possible that I just was not impressed because of his presentation. An excellent trick with a lousy presentation= a lousy trick. An OK trick with an excellent presentation= an excellent trick.

I'd be willing to bet that if I saw Xiqual perform "Blindsight" I would be impressed.

Just my opinion, not a fact; so we could go back and forth all year about it and not come to an agreement.

I will come here on Monday and solicit opinions from those who saw the lecture.

I hope many say "Bats, you were WRONG and you missed something that I will never forget".

Then I'll take my ball away and cry myself to sleep.

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Bats, I think the point you make is a valid one, and something I think about when buying every trick.

You can't base how good an effect is on the person performing. Some people are creators, some people are performers, some people are both. I believe Devin is extremely creative but not the best performer of our era. And that's okay! He doesn't have to be! But you have to look at the effect that is at the core of the presentation and you have to think to yourself "Is this effect something I can work with?" If the answer is yes, buy it! Buy it and work on a presentation that is more lively and justifies everything.


The problem with the new generation of magic is that magicians are too lazy to try to think of their own presentations. Trust me! I would know more than anyone! I used to learn the script for every magic effect I ever had and would perform it exactly like they taught. But sense then, I do things differently now. I sit down and try to think out a presentation that is fun and that I think my particular audience would enjoy.
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And Maddy, you too have a valid point.

I used to try doing things exactly the way they were taught by the creator also, since they had all of the experience, but I found that a lot of the time it just wasn't me. Being comfortable with your patter is important, and I am very comfortable with mine. I don't think anyone would ever think I am following some sort of script.

I adapt almost every trick to a style that suits me.

Like, for instance, I currently have and am using "I Hate Kids." I love it, but there is just NO WAY that I can say that line during a performance. People that know me (and even those that don't) would just KNOW that that is a lie. I am always told that I am SO GOOD with kids. So when the kid wins the dollar and walks away and it comes time for me to say that line, I say "That's why I HATE doing this for kids. Adults NEVER win the money". That works for me.

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