On 2013-08-02 10:23, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 09:10, gdw wrote:
And are you really trotting out the "love it or leave it?"

If you are referring to me the answer is no.

I am one who believes that if you really want something then go after it. It will not come to you. If he wants to go then he should leave and stop fantasizing about it, and just do it. Otherwise he will only torture himself for not having done it and question himself and never realy know.

Some people just like to hear themselves talk and spout what they hear as the absolute truth without really knowing or having experienced what they are talking about. These people are wishful thinkers and nothing more. They are not doers nor will they ever be. Coulda, woulda, shoulda applies to these people.

That is what I am trotting out.

On 2013-08-02 10:30, gdw wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:23, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 09:10, gdw wrote:
And are you really trotting out the "love it or leave it?"

If you are referring to me the answer is no.

I am one who believes that if you really want something then go after it. It will not come to you. If he wants to go then he should leave and stop fantasizing about it, and just do it. Otherwise he will only torture himself for not having done it and question himself and never realy know.

Some people just like to hear themselves talk and spout what they hear as the absolute truth without really knowing or having experienced what they are talking about. These people are wishful thinkers and nothing more. They are not doers nor will they ever be. Coulda, woulda, shoulda applies to these people.

That is what I am trotting out.

That I can get behind.

There are plenty who don't like it, who ARE doing things. As for "leaving" though, it's not as simple as just "leaving."

On 2013-08-02 10:32, Al Angello wrote:
Gdw
It is good to see that you have taken over the babysitting duties. Cary on.

On 2013-08-02 10:32, Al Angello wrote:
Gdw
It is good to see that you have taken over the babysitting duties. Cary on.

On 2013-08-02 10:54, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:30, gdw wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:23, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 09:10, gdw wrote:
And are you really trotting out the "love it or leave it?"

If you are referring to me the answer is no.

I am one who believes that if you really want something then go after it. It will not come to you. If he wants to go then he should leave and stop fantasizing about it, and just do it. Otherwise he will only torture himself for not having done it and question himself and never realy know.

Some people just like to hear themselves talk and spout what they hear as the absolute truth without really knowing or having experienced what they are talking about. These people are wishful thinkers and nothing more. They are not doers nor will they ever be. Coulda, woulda, shoulda applies to these people.

That is what I am trotting out.

That I can get behind.

There are plenty who don't like it, who ARE doing things. As for "leaving" though, it's not as simple as just "leaving."

Of course, nothing is simple that is worth doing. How bad does he want to go or is he just talking? That is why some people are successful and some are not. There are many who keep saying if, if, if. If I were a doctor or if I owned a business or if...well you get the picture. But ask them what have they done to try and accomplish any of these goals. Usually nothing because they are sitting back and saying if. Those who choose to take the simple way out and just sit back and do nothing don't fair that well unless they win the lottery. Those who have a goal and persue it are usually more successful. But sittinig back and complaining and saying if is not going to get it done. But IF you win the lottery, there you go.

By the way once he gets to NZ he has to get a job set his alarm and get up and go to work. Does that sound familiar? Now if he were a doctor or owned a business or...here we go again. Time to find another country. Of course he can get drunk in public and it is OK. So if that works.

On 2013-08-02 10:54, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:30, gdw wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:23, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 09:10, gdw wrote:
And are you really trotting out the "love it or leave it?"

If you are referring to me the answer is no.

I am one who believes that if you really want something then go after it. It will not come to you. If he wants to go then he should leave and stop fantasizing about it, and just do it. Otherwise he will only torture himself for not having done it and question himself and never realy know.

Some people just like to hear themselves talk and spout what they hear as the absolute truth without really knowing or having experienced what they are talking about. These people are wishful thinkers and nothing more. They are not doers nor will they ever be. Coulda, woulda, shoulda applies to these people.

That is what I am trotting out.

That I can get behind.

There are plenty who don't like it, who ARE doing things. As for "leaving" though, it's not as simple as just "leaving."

Of course, nothing is simple that is worth doing. How bad does he want to go or is he just talking? That is why some people are successful and some are not. There are many who keep saying if, if, if. If I were a doctor or if I owned a business or if...well you get the picture. But ask them what have they done to try and accomplish any of these goals. Usually nothing because they are sitting back and saying if. Those who choose to take the simple way out and just sit back and do nothing don't fair that well unless they win the lottery. Those who have a goal and persue it are usually more successful. But sittinig back and complaining and saying if is not going to get it done. But IF you win the lottery, there you go.

By the way once he gets to NZ he has to get a job set his alarm and get up and go to work. Does that sound familiar? Now if he were a doctor or owned a business or...here we go again. Time to find another country. Of course he can get drunk in public and it is OK. So if that works.

On 2013-08-02 11:06, gdw wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:54, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:30, gdw wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 10:23, acesover wrote:

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On 2013-08-02 09:10, gdw wrote:
And are you really trotting out the "love it or leave it?"

If you are referring to me the answer is no.

I am one who believes that if you really want something then go after it. It will not come to you. If he wants to go then he should leave and stop fantasizing about it, and just do it. Otherwise he will only torture himself for not having done it and question himself and never realy know.

Some people just like to hear themselves talk and spout what they hear as the absolute truth without really knowing or having experienced what they are talking about. These people are wishful thinkers and nothing more. They are not doers nor will they ever be. Coulda, woulda, shoulda applies to these people.

That is what I am trotting out.

That I can get behind.

There are plenty who don't like it, who ARE doing things. As for "leaving" though, it's not as simple as just "leaving."

Of course, nothing is simple that is worth doing. How bad does he want to go or is he just talking? That is why some people are successful and some are not. There are many who keep saying if, if, if. If I were a doctor or if I owned a business or if...well you get the picture. But ask them what have they done to try and accomplish any of these goals. Usually nothing because they are sitting back and saying if. Those who choose to take the simple way out and just sit back and do nothing don't fair that well unless they win the lottery. Those who have a goal and persue it are usually more successful. But sittinig back and complaining and saying if is not going to get it done. But IF you win the lottery, there you go.

By the way once he gets to NZ he has to get a job set his alarm and get up and go to work. Does that sound familiar? Now if he were a doctor or owned a business or...here we go again. Time to find another country. Of course he can get drunk in public and it is OK. So if that works.

That wasn't even the kind of difficulty I was referring to. You need permission first to actually fully "leave" america.

On 2013-08-03 10:30, gdw wrote:
Not just as, but Canada also demands taxes from Canadians who love in other countries.
America and North Korea are, I believe, the only other countries which claim ownership of you even if you live and work in another country.
You need their permission to leave, and get rid of your citizenship, and they will still demand money from you at that point, either "taxing" your own property, otherwise known as holding your belongings for ransom when done by anyone else.
Even after you leave, even if they've given you "permission," there are still several ways in which they will try and extort money from you over the next 5 years.

On 2013-08-01 09:49, gdw wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/ju......ine-data

A tad bit more than perusing phone records.

On 2013-08-03 10:30, gdw wrote:

Not just as, but Canada also demands taxes from Canadians who love in other countries..

On 2013-08-05 13:11, balducci wrote:

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On 2013-08-03 10:30, gdw wrote:

Not just as, but Canada also demands taxes from Canadians who love in other countries..

Not entirely sure what you meant, but some of my international friends (European and Australian) who have lived and worked in both countries say the U.S. is worse when it comes to taxation of non-U.S. citizens and U.S. citizens who live abroad.

On 2013-08-05 22:46, balducci wrote:
I watched this short movie on a flight to Montreal the other day:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2041386/

I think it is a heck of a lot better if one does not know the set-up going in. That was the case for myself, several thousand feet in the air.

You clever possums may already know too much to get the full effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSyR4WPzCnQ

:)

On 2013-08-05 21:04, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
https://medium.com/geek-empire-1/a1ebd2b4a0e5