On 2013-08-06 15:07, Slide wrote:
Don't worry though, I'll be gone soon enough. I'm only wasting time here today because I just finished building a new website from scratch using the new Joomla 3 CMS system. It required me not only learning a new development environment but I had to take a crash course in advanced CSS3.

So I needed a break, and decided to waste some time here.

Some of you guys really like to argue just for the sake of arguing, though. I'm have no doubt if Warren Buffet came on here to give you financial advice, you'd argue with him.

It would have been great if someone had actually asked me a question that could have helped them. A waste actually.

On 2013-08-06 14:20, Slide wrote:
It is like using an AOL email address. You can do it, but no one will take you seriously.

On 2013-08-06 10:43, General_Magician wrote:

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Clearly you have no ida how my business runs. But if it makes you feel better to think you do then go for it.

Having a billion people pre disposed to being magic lovers translates into exactly zero dollars for me. You may be right in general but in this specific case you are just wrong.

I know everyone flys the social media flag rreally high but for us it is a way to simply be in tough AFTER.

Personally, I have referred business to other magicians because I am a close up magician and not a stage or parlor magician. Building relationships with other magicians can be good for your business in that you can refer them business and they can do the same for you. I have also referred business to people who are balloon twisters as I personally don't have that skill and sometimes I am hired for gigs where in addition to myself, the customer would also like a balloon twister.

But if you want to cheat yourself out of additional business by not building relationships with other magicians, then, it's all you Danny. Not to mention having more likes on your Facebook page also helps to build social proof which in turn helps in marketing your Facebook page and developing more contacts. Facebook and social media were also key in bringing democratic revolutions to the Arab world a year or two back. So, it's a powerful tool for networking, which networking is key in business.

On 2013-08-06 20:00, Dannydoyle wrote:

So it is clear I have never refered business back and forth. I also do not need or see how "social proof" helps me in the least. You can quote the buzz words but can't show it translating into dollars.

There are businesses in which there is no need for this. Whether you understand it or not.

On 2013-08-06 22:14, Dannydoyle wrote:
Again you demonstrate a comete misunderstanding of my business. But by all means continue to use all the special buzz words you read in your last sales book.

On 2013-08-07 13:29, Dannydoyle wrote:
You sound like you enjoy using buzz words.

On 2013-08-06 22:14, Dannydoyle wrote:

Again you demonstrate a comete misunderstanding of my business. But by all means continue to use all the special buzz words you read in your last sales book.

On 2013-08-05 17:00, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2013-08-05 16:19, Slide wrote:
"I don't know about "downside," but I would say if you have all the business you need, its unnecessary."

In my experience, not marketing yourself will soon lead to not having all the business you need. I've never seen a product, outside of a monopoly, that didn't require some marketing, except maybe drugs.

My best friend is a magician now semi-retired from performing. Before his retirement, he did 150+ shows a year with no social media marketing, and very little active marketing on his part at all. He had an agent, did a lot of repeat bookings, and got calls from referrals and word of mouth. He had absolutely no desire to do more shows than he got effortlessly, and Facebook or Twitter would have been a complete waste of time for him.

Yea but you do a lot of rah rah quoting of books and it really does not apply in every situation. Knowing where to apply it is the key.

As I said things are different than you think.

On 2013-08-06 14:32, Slide wrote:

With Facebook, you have complete control over what people see and what people don't see.