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Slide Special user 533 Posts 
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My only hope is that some of you will look at what I'm saying and apply it to your own life. The rest of you can think I'm a bragging, full of himself moron, for all I care. The only people I give a crap about are the ones I can help.
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2659 Posts
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On 2013-08-13 13:46, Slide wrote: Maybe I'm reading this incorrectly, but are you saying if I have a skill (let's say magic) and I charge people $20 a month to learn it from me, the goal is to find 499 people interested in taking magic lessons from me? That's the business model?
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2659 Posts
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Okay, that's what I thought.
Best of luck.
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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Actually, you don't have to do a thing. My members make most of the content, just like the magic Café.
Take magic: do you think there are 500 magicians who would pay $20 a month to have a PRIVATE version of the magic Café? Or maybe 100? If it is a 100, the magic Café site becomes one of many other sites you create. |
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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They aren't paying $20 to learn from you. they are paying $20 to be a member of an exclusive club where they can talk with peers in a setting where everyone has been vetted.
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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"Best of luck."
for what? |
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MobilityBundle Regular user Las Vegas/Boston 120 Posts
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On 2013-08-13 14:14, Andrew Zuber wrote: That seems close, but not quite right. The key difference is that your business model doesn't scale well from 1 to 500. Websites, on the other hand, scale brilliantly from 1 to 500. (Although there are eventually scaling issues with websites, I'm not sure exactly at what number of users the issues become significant.) To be sure, I wouldn't be convinced by Slide's business model -- at least as presented. The whole trick seems to be finding that niche, and I bet it's way harder than it sounds. But, if he's managed to pull it off a few times, good for him! |
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2659 Posts
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I'm pretty skeptical. But "Slide" has a million dollars in the bank and a house on the Hudson, so clearly I have no idea what I'm talking about. The guy behind the curtain has it all figured out so that's all that matters.
Sounds a bit like a get rich quick deal to me. I have a hard time believing that these models are sustainable over a long period of time, if at all.
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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God, the niches are everywhere. It takes a little thought and effort but when I have presented this to any niche industry, I always here the same thing: our industry could use something like that.
But of course that is the fun part. Building the business, see what each one needs. It is really quite fun. |
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MobilityBundle Regular user Las Vegas/Boston 120 Posts
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On 2013-08-13 14:16, Slide wrote: That's the thing that makes me a little skeptical of the model. The answer is no, I *don't* think there are 500 magicians who would pay $20/month to have a private version of this site. What does the privacy get you? Maybe fewer newbies, trolls, or other riff-raff. So presumably, the target for that site is folks who are relatively advanced in magic. I don't know about magic, but in other fields I'm familiar with (math, law, chess), those folks know each other pretty well regardless. |
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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"Sounds a bit like a get rich quick deal to me"
except I don't profit from getting you "rich quick", (well, I do hope you join my site when it is created but other than the $20 a month. I don't sell videos, books, I don't do lectures or anything like that. ) |
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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"What does the privacy get you"
A lot. And you don't think there are 100 people who would join a site were real secrets could be shared and discussed? How many people have joined magic clubs? It is the same thing. Anyway, too big a discussion for this site. |
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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts
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On 2013-08-13 12:08, Dannydoyle wrote: Hey man, somebody has got to pay taxes. Nothing in this world is free. I would rather pay taxes and be a contributor to society than be a moocher. Government isn't free, nothing is free and you have to work and pay for your keep. I wouldn't feel right not contributing and paying my fair share of taxes. I think it's pretty disgusting to dodge paying taxes, but hey, some people just don't have a soul or any values or morals. Honestly, I feel good to pay taxes and I don't think my tax rate is unreasonable at all. Government costs money.
"Never fear shadows. They simply mean there is a light shining somewhere nearby." -unknown
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MobilityBundle Regular user Las Vegas/Boston 120 Posts
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On 2013-08-13 14:41, Slide wrote: I dunno, there's a certain level of secrecy on this site: the posting requirement to get into "secret sessions" is a gatekeeper, albeit not a very difficult one to get around. Then there are private messages, which (hopefully) are as private as any other password-secured site. Would an invitation-only, more private site be better? Perhaps. But is it worth $20 / month? That's the part I'm less sanguine about. |
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Marlin1894 Special user 565 Posts
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On 2013-08-13 14:55, MobilityBundle wrote: Don't bank on it. |
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General_Magician Special user United States 707 Posts
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I didn't get a chance to re-edit my post, I don't think slide was necessarily "bragging" he was just appreciating the fact that he has had plenty of opportunity here in America. He is one of the few that recognize that nothing in this world is free and you got to pay if you want to live in a society that has opportunity and the rule of law. You can't have opportunity and the rule of law unless you have government and you can't have government unless you pay. Nothing is free.
"Never fear shadows. They simply mean there is a light shining somewhere nearby." -unknown
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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" But is it worth $20 / month? That's the part I'm less sanguine about.'
Setting the price point is what building a business is all about. A good way to start is to offer it for free for a while and then see how much value you generate. Never underestimate the power of "privacy" ESPECIALLY to magicians. I like to look at it as: every site has to find its value. When the site is generating value, you'll have a pretty good idea what to charge. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 20552 Posts
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Incidently I never advocated NOT paying taxes.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11047 Posts
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If you don't like it here go to the country of your choosing as soon as you can, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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"was just appreciating the fact that he has had plenty of opportunity here in America. "
exactly. Thank you for your ability to read what's written. |
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