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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts 
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On 2013-08-15 17:32, Dannydoyle wrote: It's REALLY hard to take people seriously when they say this when they are STILL trying to get these experiments with democracy, etc, to work.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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I imagine those experiments started when people decided that anarchy wasn't working.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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On 2013-08-15 17:21, Andrew Zuber wrote: You're presuming that things will continue on the current trajectory fostered by the current system and policies regarding the poor and immigration, ignoring the fact that everything that you're saying sounds fine in the short-term are removing everything that fuels the current trajectory. In other words, it's exactly the opposite, everything being done now sounds good in the short term, but is clearly failing, and actually perpetuating things, in the long run.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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On 2013-08-15 17:45, LobowolfXXX wrote: Exactly.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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That's right Glenn close your eyes don't answer the questions. It will all just happen.
Danny Doyle
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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What question have I not answered, Danny?
Your implementation one? The question doesn't even make sense, and yet I STILL answered it. How about you answer a question of mine? I'm not trying to "trap" you here; I'm genuinely curious, you keep talking about our "responsibility" (no one had any in chosen responsibilities) to help those less fortunate, particularly as a justification for government, what about health care? Again, totally not trying to trap you, I really want to know how that works in your mind.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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If you do not see the difference in government and society I can't help you Glenn.
Fact is that as a SOCIETY that has evolved beyond robber barrens we have a responsibility whether we sign on for it or not. How do you think things will just get done without a collective responsibility of some sort Glenn? Your idea is a recipe for the strong to take from the weak. You NEVER address that. No anarchist ever does. But hey good on ya for being consistent.
Danny Doyle
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21245 Posts
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And what you never answer is implementation. There IS a system to transition out of so implementing a new one is necessary. Sorry.
Danny Doyle
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts
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You guys still at it?
Write your beliefs on a piece of toilet paper and flush it. You won't sway each other.
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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Now, Steve, moot is not always moot... and never mute...
Beside which, would it not be more appropriate to advise they eat their beliefs and then flush them in the morning? Just a thought...
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts
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Aren't they already trying to force each other to eat their words?
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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On 2013-08-15 19:20, Dannydoyle wrote: You really just don't read anything I write, do you? I've been talking about a voluntary SOCIETY. As for the strong taking hold, first off, what the hell do you think happens now? The idea that "anarchy" would be nothing but "survival of the fittest" is just as misrepresentative as the ignorance of creationists attempting to contort the same in terms of evolution, and "atheists." It's not ignored by "anarchists;" it's been addressed by almost every single prominent "anarchist" in history. There are entire books written on. Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution, for example. It's not the question which is getting ignored.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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On 2013-08-15 19:21, Dannydoyle wrote: Again, I DID answer this. There's no new "system" to implement. It's the equivalent of asking how do you transplant in the new tumor after removing the old one.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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Specious, gdw, but funny...
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1339 Posts
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Besides, what's more entertaining than following economic/political discussions on a magicians forum...
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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Agreed- but should not a magician be able make it all disappear??
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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Man, am I padding my post count...
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RobertSmith Veteran user 330 Posts
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On 2013-08-15 21:54, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: Not in this section of TMC you're not. |
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts
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Amazing how many folks don't realize that!
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
My neighbor rang my doorbell at 2:30 a.m. this morning, can you believe that, 2:30 a.m.!? Lucky for him I was still up playing my drums. |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts
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On 2013-08-13 10:12, gdw wrote: No he's not. There are some people in this world who simply don't see the roadblocks that are obvious to the rest of us. These are the people who casually say; "Start your own business" or "Move somewhere where you can get work." when you try to explain why things are difficult for you.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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