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Out of curiosity Al do you get money back or actually pay taxes? Just curious.
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On 2013-08-13 20:29, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2013-08-13 19:55, Al Angello wrote:
if you think taxes are too high for you here please vote for people who will lower them


Fixed your post for you, Al!


Cause that really makes such a difference in the end.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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Out of curiosity Al do you get money back or actually pay taxes? Just curious.


You can do both.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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On 2013-08-13 08:36, Dennis Michael wrote:
When the tax rate gets up to 75% many more will jump ship. And yes there are counties where this is the tax rate.


The upper bracket tax rate was never less than 70% (it was even 90% for a while) throughout the '50s, and '60s - arguably the greatest economic boom time in American History. Were people jumping ship then? Was the country tanking then? The rate was 50% through most of the '80s. And now it's down to, what, 39%? And it's ship jumping time? Now? Now is the time??


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On 2013-08-13 20:29, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2013-08-13 19:55, Al Angello wrote:
if you think taxes are too high for you here please vote for people who will lower them


Fixed your post for you, Al!


Cause that really makes such a difference in the end.


The voting, or the lowered taxes?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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I get a social security check, a 401K check every month, and I work my butt off seven days a week making little kiddies laugh. Uncle Sam gets a fat check from me every April 15. The VA, medicare, and the state of Pennsylvania helps me out with my daily prescription medication.

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Danny
I get a social security check, a 401K check every month, and I work my butt off seven days a week making little kiddies laugh. Uncle Sam gets a fat check from me every April 15. The VA, medicare, and the state of Pennsylvania helps me out with my daily prescription medication.

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If you want more details about my personal life you can check with Edward Snowden.


I wouldn't have taken you for an "America - Love it or leave it!" kind of guy. Sounds more like a Tea Party banner.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Not love it or leave it at all.

My philosophy is if you can't be part of the solution don't be part of the problem.

The tea party believes do it my way or I will destroy our economy.

Not even close.
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On 2013-08-13 08:36, Dennis Michael wrote:
When the tax rate gets up to 75% many more will jump ship. And yes there are counties where this is the tax rate.


The upper bracket tax rate was never less than 70% (it was even 90% for a while) throughout the '50s, and '60s - arguably the greatest economic boom time in American History. Were people jumping ship then? Was the country tanking then? The rate was 50% through most of the '80s. And now it's down to, what, 39%? And it's ship jumping time? Now? Now is the time??






Ron



Interestingly it was John F. Kennedy who lowered the tax rate.


The Kennedy tax cuts

President Hoover dramatically increased tax rates in the 1930s and President Roosevelt compounded the damage by pushing marginal tax rates to more than 90 percent. Recognizing that high tax rates were hindering the economy, President Kennedy proposed across-the-board tax rate reductions that reduced the top tax rate from more than 90 percent down to 70 percent. What happened? Tax revenues climbed from $94 billion in 1961 to $153 billion in 1968, an increase of 62 percent (33 percent after adjusting for inflation).

According to President John F. Kennedy:

Our true choice is not between tax reduction, on the one hand, and the avoidance of large Federal deficits on the other. It is increasingly clear that no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits… In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now.
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On 2013-08-13 21:58, Al Angello wrote:
Not love it or leave it at all.



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If you don't like it here go to the country of your choosing as soon as you can, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.






I don't really care what your philosophy is, but pick one.
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I get a social security check, a 401K check every month, and I work my butt off seven days a week making little kiddies laugh. Uncle Sam gets a fat check from me every April 15. The VA, medicare, and the state of Pennsylvania helps me out with my daily prescription medication.


And you paid state, federal taxes, saved and invested towards your retirement as well as served your country to earn and recieve those benefits. So you get what you give and you get what you pay for. You have to give to get and in most cases, you get what you pay for. However, I think sometimes a very small handful of people just prefer to not give anything, but then expect to get even though they have never given. That's just not how things work.

My CPA has me pay Uncle Sam and the state 4 times a year each quarter, that way I don't have to write a big fat check to them at the end of the year because I have been paying throughout the year. I prefer not to get slammed all at once with a big tax bill anyway and space it out throughout the year. CPA says it's quarterly estimated tax payments and I think in my specific case I would be penalized for not paying quarterly.
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My God I have no idea what that means either. I must have had a stroke or something.
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When you jump all over me for little or no reason it does not exactly make ME look bad. LOL
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Lobo
As a lawyer picking the fly manure out of the black pepper while wearing boxing gloves is all in a day's work.


Those two quotes, it's more like questioning the guy who first says he was in the bank, then says he wasn't in the bank. But I'm glad to hear that you're not down with the "Love it or leave it!" thing. That's one thing I *do* like about the Tea Partiers. Politics aside, they're embracing the "Love it or try to change it" mentality that I think is much more preferable.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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And still, billions would die to be as fortunate as Americans are...

Some really do die trying to be American.
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And still, billions would die to be as fortunate as Americans are...

Some really do die trying to be American.


Yup, the many "unintended" consequences of the war on immigration.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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The only immigration "was" is on ILLEGAL immigration. One million new foreign nationals become Americans every year with the full blessing of the U.S. government.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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