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Billybonkers Loyal user Diamond Bar L.A 251 Posts |
So while performing OOTW last night I had an older lady respond with "Well that's not even magic, it was just chance".
She also commented later in the set "well that's easy to do, he just cheated" I confirmed to her that she was right I did in fact cheat. This spectators solutions genuinely made me smile and I was wondering if anyone else has has similar things said to them? |
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Kex Special user Arlington, Texas 577 Posts |
I was at a party doing magic and thought I'd take it easy with a bit of mind reading. Guy swore I did it by palming and that it was in my pocket. Others around tried to tell him I had nothing in my hands (as this was purely a psychological effect) but he swore up and down that is how I did it.
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j100taylor Inner circle 1198 Posts |
After doing the PH Invisible Palm routine I followed it up with some other stuff that wasn't getting any reaction. After inquiring, his serious answer was "well you are just invisible palming everything".
Lakewood, Ohio
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Jmolomagic Veteran user Victorville 332 Posts |
I performed a chop cup routine with an 8 ball load at the end and a gentleman watching yelled "THE BALL FOLDS!!!".
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
That it was done by real magic.
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5943 Posts |
The best one I ever had was awoman who said oh that's easy, its a trick. The mind boggles.
By failing to prepare, we are preparing to fail.
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EricStevens Regular user Valley Center, CA 129 Posts |
I did Justin Miller's ring-thru-finger and people kept assuring me (despite the fact that it was I who was DOING the trick) that the ring opened up. I happened to purchase a crappy Himber Ring from Daytona Magic which would fool absolutely nobody if I ever used it. Thus, to this day, I perform the effect first with the "trick ring", saying "How do I do this? Well, it helps if you have one of these." When I show them it opens, they instantly let their guard down, thinking they know how it works. I then perform the same effect AGAIN with THEIR ring (or a solid brass ring I have), which totally blows their theory right out of the water.
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
Never been a fan of exposure
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EricStevens Regular user Valley Center, CA 129 Posts |
I'm not either; I was just trying to find a good way to use a prop which had no use in anyone's performance repertoire anyway. The presentation is designed to portray this crappy piece of equipment as a joke, and every single person I've done this for perceives it that way. I totally understand what you're saying, but I'm not trying to expose good magic.
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Count Lustig Elite user 456 Posts |
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On 2013-08-16 20:07, EricStevens wrote: What “totally blows their theory right out of the water” is the fact that you do the effect with their ring. You could do that from the outset without first doing the Himber ring sequence. Putting aside the issue of exposure, what do you think that the Himber ring gag adds to the effect? |
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts |
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On 2013-08-16 21:51, magicfish wrote: I've got to agree. Sorry, but it's not a good idea to expose the Himber wallet no matter how crappy it is. Robert |
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EricStevens Regular user Valley Center, CA 129 Posts |
I'm not exposing the Himber wallet. And I apologize; I shall stop using the ring in that form.
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Serrodash New user Alaska 52 Posts |
I have an orginal effect where the spectator takes a deck under the table, shuffles it, picks a card, remembers it, (all under the table and out of my sight), shuffles it back in and then hands me back the deck to find it. I like the effect because the method is almost semi automatic, without gimmicks, and the deception happens in a different effect, my work is already done when I start the effect, but this makes me incredibly non challant about the whole thing, and so often people will feel the need to come up with some explanation, like they are trying to get on the non challant train I'm on. Never offenseive, or adversarial, just people trying to figure it out so they can move past it (it is probably a bad thing that I am so embarresingly relaxed over the procedure, it's just how I perform). And the short list following this paragraph contains the most ridiculous explanations I have heard for any of my effects. (no one ever feels satisfied with these explanations, and always admit it would be impossible, but still, they blurt them out, which is fine)
1 - I could feel the residual body heat on the card she picked out of the deck (I've got this one a few times) 2 - I have a mirror on my shoe or under the table 3 - I pulled some mentalist maneuver where I convince them the card I found is their's, when it wasn't 4 - I memorized the full shuffled deck order, and mathematically deduced how the deck was shuffled under the table, and thus which card they displaced. (which is actually in the ball park of the actual method) 5 - I saw the card's reflection in their eyes. 6 - The cards have some substance on them, which allows me to see the finger prints on the cards, allowing me to find the one they displaced. (Which always makes me sad that I can't afford a pair of luminous readers) |
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Billybonkers Loyal user Diamond Bar L.A 251 Posts |
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On 2013-08-17 19:47, Serrodash wrote: Wow, there are some crackers in there....... I love the body heat and mirror on shoe explanations. I think spectators know that these theories don't make sense but certain spectators just don't like being badly fooled so have to give themselves something. Now we all know he's okay I'd love to here from Harry about his spectator experiences, or will we have to wait for the memoirs? |
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Zuke Veteran user 353 Posts |
YEARS ago before TT's became as widely exposed as they are now I did a fairly standard vanish/reappearance sequence and the spectator said "He's hiding it in his watch". I told her if I could do it that way I'd be charging a higher fee.
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Cubby199 New user 64 Posts |
Lols thanks for this awesome thread it mad me lauf soo hard!
Now you're looking for the secret. But you won't find it because of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.
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NFW Inner circle UK 1002 Posts |
I've had several people say ' the cards are all the same' even though I've done several effects before where clearly they aren't !
And a guy once accused me of having the cards ' numbered', although the effect was a vanish, so quite how having numbered cards would aid that I'm not to sure.. Lastly the best one, I was doing a card revelation effect and when I asked him to think of his card and I revealed the correct card he said ( I kid you not) ' wow that's amazing because I actually thought of the wrong card to put you off and you still managed to read my mind'. |
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Tenacitiz New user A pathetic total of 71 Posts |
I love this thread. A while back I had been doing some coin effects for a group at a birthday party when this (slightly) inebriated lady snatched the coins from my hand. She told everyone I'd failed to fool her because the coins were obviously real on one side and glass on the other and I just turned them glass side up so you could see right through them!!!! Seriously! Most amazing of all they had to pass the coins round to disprove it. Oh how I love drunk snatchers.
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts |
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On 2013-08-16 21:51, magicfish wrote: me too. I don't think it is a good way to construct routines. It's easy but not good IMHO. |
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Emanuel Chester New user Howell, NJ, USA 30 Posts |
A couple years ago, I grew amazed by how often spectators guess correctly, or at least plausibly. That's when I decided to change my routines and performances, so that "the secret" doesn't matter anymore.
The best reactions I get stem from the horror magic I perform. When I pound a 6" nail into my nose, people will claim that it collapses or retracts (even though they get to hold that same nail before and after the scare), or that I must have trained my nose slowly over many years. Very few people are aware of natural bone structures in our faces. But that latter explanation is plausible and therefore I went on to present it as the real explanation, which keeps people from looking for other explanations. And when I perform the russian roulette with the one spike, slamming a participant's hand into stirofoam cups or paper cylinders, people assume that I must somehow feel or see where that spike is, even though they blindfolded me, and I use no PK ring or any other gimmick. My performance is entirely based on the participant's motions. But both explanations are entirely plausible. Other participants claimed I must have somehow vanished the spike right before I slam down my hand. I wish!
Renaissance Man ~ I am interested in a lot, I can do a lot, I have done a lot. Not all equally well, and there's still a lot more for me to explore.
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