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TanMai New user 16 Posts |
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On 2013-08-30 13:25, Peter Nardi wrote: Hi peter, Did you or somebody else have a chance to watch both rhine revenge and Jazz mentalism to have a comparison, and tell us more about the added value of this new product? Thanks, |
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ManchesterUK New user 23 Posts |
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On 2013-09-08 18:41, Mesaboogie wrote: I appreciate what you were trying to say... however I stand by what I wrote |
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
There's a much worse outcome surely if it goes 2-1-2 (i hope that makes sense to those who know what this is)
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paperinick Inner circle my faro is starting to look nice after 1177 Posts |
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On 2013-09-10 14:41, Olympic Adam wrote: I think even worst is 2-2-1 because it's anti-climatic.
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death my right to say "scr*w you" if you persist. [Voltaire ]
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
This is another one of those effects that if it doesn't go as planned then some fiddly suspicious moves are carried out, which most eagle-eyed specs, pick up on, if not at the time then later on.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2013-08-30 12:52, saysold1 wrote: The tuxedo bird has it: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/3692 Anyone know if the only cards that come with it have the Bicycle card stock bakcs? Could you make new ones with different "non" card stock backs? |
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
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On 2013-09-11 10:29, paperinick wrote: both not great! they weren't covered on the DVD sure they weren't? (it doesn't take a lot to work around it but also doesn't take a lot to cover on a DVD) Either way, the worst case wasn't shown Zombie, you could use whatever you want for this really, it'd be up to you to apply the same method to it but you could use anything really This is a pretty simple routine, and exactly what you would think it was (ignoring the previous post that explains it...) the quality here is that they have done the simple thinking for you and turned it into a routine that when it hits, hits pretty hard, I'm already working on something for this and if it goes as planned will be carried with me all the time I think a download for £10 would have been a better option maybe (that's download not streaming) - it is a very nice routine though
Protection for mind readers and mentalists: http://tricksofthemind.com
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
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On 2013-09-11 10:39, pegasus wrote: not sure I agree with that, IMO there are no fiddly suspicious moves, it's the routine that gets let down if it doesn't go to plan, not because of anything technical
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
On a french forum, somebody who bought this effect said it is the same as "Jazz Mentalism"... A simple question: why releasing a DVD with an already existing method ?
In my case, I already use Jazz Mentalism, but was tempted with this one... Hopefully I did not buy it :/ It's a bit sad to see how things are working now. Taking old things and releasing a "brand new effect DVD". Let me add that I have nothing against Alakazam, which has got great other products.
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
Received from Alakazam yesterday and watched the DVD but have not yet performed.
Generally it's good but certainly not a top tier release. The DVD is relative short with Peter and Clint explaining. Peter admits on the DVD that he is learning it as he is watching and listening to Clint's explanations. Concept seems clever and solid - not a new idea obviously but clever using it with the ESP cards. I do wish they would have included better esp cards for the price - these are just standard Bike esp cards which I already had and most people will probably buy some better ones or use their existing paralabs or cardshark Phoenix cards. Overall I think this will something I could use but pricing should have been a little better because of the lack of better esp cards (yes you can m them yourself which is briefly mentioned how on the DVD). Overall I would rate the whole package as a 6.5 out of 10. (STC would be a 9.5)
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Bande Elite user 429 Posts |
Saysold just wanted to thanks for the review. So nice to read something fair and balanced -- so tired of "this is the GREATEST PRODUCT IN THE WORLD" or "this product IS A RIPOFF" etc. Short review, tells me thoughts about the product with no reveal. Well done.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
Or a favorite review line "very well thought out. "
I mean, Adolf Hitler had a very well thought out plan too and look how that ended. (I am against it however. Never was a fan. ) Thanks saysold |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
From what I've seen I think Doug dyments Bob's your uncle is the best esp match for the spec.
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
My rating is more based on the value for the money not the impact.
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
Saysold1, thanks for the review.
I think they made a mistake using Bicycle back cards. It's good you can make up your own, but for $30.... I'm passing on it. |
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TheTableTopTrixta Special user 708 Posts |
Nice routine, strong effect, plays exactly as you see in the demo,
Could have included better cards Personally I think this is priced incorrectly for what it is, would have thought this would be better placed on a multi effect product DVD rather then a stand alone effect. |
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mikesmithmagic New user 66 Posts |
Talk about life imitating art, this is an exact match of Jazz Mentalism.
Having said that this discussion will become redundant once Michael Murray's Tattle Tailed is unleashed into the magic community!
"I seriously love the disarming flexibility of Mick Wilson's SDP...one of those rare card-handling procedures that exemplifies the concept of 'why run when no one is chasing you'. SDP is an open-handed utility tool that conjurers will use to great advantage when creating new effects in the years to come."
Mick Ayres, South Carolina, 2016 |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
Michael Murray is the man.
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Mesaboogie Special user 804 Posts |
I was extremely disappointed with this product. The method is not new using ESP cards, I have been using this method in real performances for about 10 years now for an ESP match up effect. I bought it as I was hoping for some clever additions, little psychological ploys or clever wording but alas there were none. I really do think a bit more research should have been carried out and I'm afraid I don't believe for a second that Clint Barry has not seen this exact effect performed before - Derren did this exact routine on his first Mind Control show, further TV appearances AND in his theatre show Something Wicked This Way Comes.
I wanted to release my version (as part of an e-book) which uses this method but has numerous nice subtleties I've worked in over the years and also ensures you never have the ridiculous show of cards after ONLY 2 rounds, but now I'd probably just be seen as another rip off and only appreciated by working mentalists. Andrew |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
I'd buy your effect Andrew as undoubtedly it'd be a lot cheaper.
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