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On 2013-08-29 17:29, Payne wrote:
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On 2013-08-29 14:46, Andrew Zuber wrote:

[But they're not striking for $10. They want $15.



Standard bargaining technique. Ask for $15.00 settle for $10.00



That had occurred to me as well. Still not sure it will work though. If enough people quit en masse maybe...
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On 2013-08-29 17:25, ShirtlessKirk wrote:

It's a slave wage for an awful job. I personally wouldn't do it for 3 times what they make now.



When you pay more turn over decreases meaning that employees stay in their positions longer and actually get good at doing their job. Thus they become more efficient and cost decrease. There is a high price to pay for employee turnover as you're continually having to train new workers and suffer finally from their mistakes. It's the difference in etting help in a Costco or a Trader Jose compared to the type of service I've heard one gets in a Wal-Mart.
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Efficiency and retention gains notwithstanding, it seems unlikely that doubling payroll costs would be a get gain at a low-skill job.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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I am glad you think $1,600 a year is paltry.

What planet do you live on.
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The one where you have a million dollars in the bank.I would imagine someone that well if would be on paying for their own health insurance.
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Really,

How much income do you think 1M throws off in investment on a yearly basis in this economy. give me a break.
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I am glad you think $1,600 a year is paltry.

What planet do you live on.


1600 a year is paltry and I'm barely middle class.
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It is $1,600 a MONTH shirtless, sorry for the mistake
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Just start another company with 500 subscribers at $20 a month you are good.

What about the whole get a job thing you promote? Right up I until it affects you I guess.

Thanks for the perspective.
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"Just start another company with 500 subscribers at $20 a month you are good. "

I'm starting 3 more. Two will launch next month. One has already generated $17k in income.
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Personally, my insurance premiums are on the rise.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2013-08-29 18:09, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Personally, my insurance premiums are on the rise.


As are mine.
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I was curious as well.
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On 2013-08-29 17:25, ShirtlessKirk wrote:
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On 2013-08-29 16:41, ShirtlessKirk wrote:
Should they be paid more, sure.

Why?

It's a slave wage for an awful job. I personally wouldn't do it for 3 times what they make now.

It's a low wage for a job that requires little skill.

Whether or not you'd do it isn't relevant; skilled people rarely want to work in unskilled jobs.

Neither of your statements addresses why they should be paid more, however.
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Saying it will only effect those at the bottom of the pay scale is not exactly true.
A minimum wage increase isn't just for those starting out like some want you to believe.

One big problem with minimum wage increases that you never hear much about and has an effect on small business like mine
that only work 15 to 20 employees is:

It forces the company to raise those that are already making more than minimum wage too. For example, you have an employee
that's been working for a year or more and has earned a small raise and then the minimum wage goes up. Now in walks a new person
and starts out earning what it took others a year or more to earn. Those employers trying to do the right thing will always see a major
payroll increase for certain.

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Those who keep pointing out that their health insurance costs are going up generally neglect to mention that the insurance exchanges under the ACA, which will result in lowered costs and increased availability, don't even open until next year.

Just a minor detail that occasionally needs to be pointed out.
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On 2013-08-29 14:24, mastermindreader wrote:
It seems like there is a corporate interest in KEEPING people in poverty.

Seems? Smile
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It seems like there is a corporate interest in KEEPING people in poverty.

Seems? Smile


I stand corrected. I should have eliminated the "it seems like" but I was trying to convey that this was my personal opinion. (Though I do believe it to be true.)
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On 2013-08-29 21:14, mastermindreader wrote:
Those who keep pointing out that their health insurance costs are going up generally neglect to mention that the insurance exchanges under the ACA, which will result in lowered costs and increased availability, don't even open until next year.

Just a minor detail that occasionally needs to be pointed out.


We'll see if they drop next year. I don't expect them to, but if I'm wrong about that, I promise to share that news with the Café.
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You agree, don't you, that the projections of reduced rates apply only AFTER the exchanges are open for business? So current increases being experienced by some aren't really relevant. Because of course insurance companies are going to try to cash in before the changes take place.

I think that the reason the right is so intent on trying to defund the ACA as quickly as possible is because they know that once the benefits fully kick in the public is actually going to like it.
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