The Magic Caf
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Finger/stage manipulation » » Covers for the steals? (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

DJ Trix
View Profile
Inner circle
1163 Posts

Profile of DJ Trix
I know Magic4u02 just made a new forum about something that would seem to be almost the exact same thing but my question is quite different. He asked about what you do to access your loads and where you place your them etc.

My question is this, What are your natural covers for your steals? I will give you an example for those who don't understand.

The wonderful Cardini Would produce a billiard ball in his left hand with his monocle in his right eye. When something like this would happen in Cardini's act he would be totally astonished.

Right after the production of the ball he would raise his eyebrows as if to say, "Oh MY!". His monocle would fall, to get a better look at the ball he would pick it back up from his waist and place it back in his right eye.

What the audience didn't know is when he was grabbing the monocle he would also steal a billiard ball from a load under his tux where the monocle was hanging while still focusing all the attention to the ball already produced in the left hand.

Now That would seem to be the perfect cover for a steal of a billiard ball.

Cardini would also take his Supposed last cigarette and drop it on the ground, it would land on the ground a little to the right of him and a little in front so he would step forward and stomp it out with his left foot while stealing a load of cigs with the right hand as soon as it left the audiences sight.

Again, also perfect misdirection.

But this was Cardini! He had a amazing character who could naturally pull almost anything off.

What types of covers for steals in your act do you use that fit your character and performing style. I know if you found something so perfect as the covers previously described it would be hard to share. But if you would like to, it would be great to see how others think and use there original character to there advantage!

Thanks again guys,

DJ
magic4u02
View Profile
Eternal Order
Philadelphia, PA
15110 Posts

Profile of magic4u02
I always make my steals feel logical and natural. I do this through the use of "proper" misdirection. If you are reaching into your pocket and come out with a wand, there is a reaon why you went to the pocket. But while getting the wand, you can steal off something else. this is what I refer to as "proper" misdirection.

By having a reason for doing what you are doing, you create the perfect cover for the steal. For example I could be reaching across to pick up something off my table. In the rpocess of reaching, it allows my hand to make a steal out of view. But the misdirection is warranted because I am doing something logical and natural for the audience.
Kyle Peron

http://www.kylekellymagic.com

Entertainers Product Site

http://kpmagicproducts.com

Join Our Facebook Fan Page at

http://facebook.com/perondesign
maylor
View Profile
Loyal user
england
231 Posts

Profile of maylor
If we really put our minds to it, I think the possibilties for making logical and 'invisible' steals are endless! I love just experimenting and seeing what I can come up with.
magic4u02
View Profile
Eternal Order
Philadelphia, PA
15110 Posts

Profile of magic4u02
Maylor:
The proper use of cover moves and misdirection really do go hand in hand. The idea is to have a logical reason for the cover move you are doing.

An audience will pick up on anything that does not look natural in appearance. They will also pick up on anything that does not seem logical in their own mind.

If you can tackle these two main ideas, then you will have a much better act and have a stronger moment when the magic does happen.

Think of logical reasons for going to the pocket of reaching for a steal.

Kyle
Kyle Peron

http://www.kylekellymagic.com

Entertainers Product Site

http://kpmagicproducts.com

Join Our Facebook Fan Page at

http://facebook.com/perondesign
stephenbanning
View Profile
Regular user
United States
178 Posts

Profile of stephenbanning
The production of an item can help cover the steal of another. This is because the heat is off because the audience is surprised and thinks the effect is over. Also, there is an excuse for movement at this time. This can be done with many items in succession, each production covering the next. The steal may need to be done after the production during the display of the produced item. Joseph Gabriel's early bird act was a good example of this.
magic4u02
View Profile
Eternal Order
Philadelphia, PA
15110 Posts

Profile of magic4u02
I think this works because the steal is done on a sort of "down beat". Meaning that the magic has already happened in the eyes of the audience. Because of this, they let down their guard and are not paying as much attention at this point.

Kyle
Kyle Peron

http://www.kylekellymagic.com

Entertainers Product Site

http://kpmagicproducts.com

Join Our Facebook Fan Page at

http://facebook.com/perondesign
abc
View Profile
Inner circle
South African in Taiwan
1081 Posts

Profile of abc
Stealing!
Buy the video General Grants How to make a living by stealing....doves of course for some excellent ideas. The best way I find to practise and get steals right and I still need to work this a lot is to do the routine without magic ie just look at the natural way to place or replace something or to take somthing and then try to copy that look exactly while stealing in your routine. The key here is misdirection as this is what steals are made of. Smile
magic4u02
View Profile
Eternal Order
Philadelphia, PA
15110 Posts

Profile of magic4u02
Abc:
Good advice here. The idea is for naturality in the movements and positioning of the body. I find by video taping your practice sessions, one can really see what one is doing right or wrong. It helps a lot.

Kyle
Kyle Peron

http://www.kylekellymagic.com

Entertainers Product Site

http://kpmagicproducts.com

Join Our Facebook Fan Page at

http://facebook.com/perondesign
abc
View Profile
Inner circle
South African in Taiwan
1081 Posts

Profile of abc
Kyle,
Video taping is a must but I cannot emphasize enough the difference between 1 - is my steal covered (OK) to 2 - does the action look like I am doing something natural and then Boom, something magical happens. I see many performers myself sometimes as well, that cover steals but are unable to answer why a certain action took place. It must look like you are NOT doing magic and then Boom it happens.
magic4u02
View Profile
Eternal Order
Philadelphia, PA
15110 Posts

Profile of magic4u02
It is a matter of watching and having a reason for doing what you are doing. If you go to the pocket and do not bring anything out, then that is obvious as there is no logic behind the movement.

But, if you go to the pocket and bring out a lighter to light flash paper, then you have a reason to go there. The movement is natural to the audience and when you pick up the lighter, you can be ditching an object or acquiring the next load.

Kyle
Kyle Peron

http://www.kylekellymagic.com

Entertainers Product Site

http://kpmagicproducts.com

Join Our Facebook Fan Page at

http://facebook.com/perondesign
DJ Trix
View Profile
Inner circle
1163 Posts

Profile of DJ Trix
Actually kyle you are wrong for most of that. Some preformers have a style that when the hands are placed in the pockets just to rest it looks quite natural. Cardini did it almost half a dozen times in his act!

DJ
abc
View Profile
Inner circle
South African in Taiwan
1081 Posts

Profile of abc
I hsve to agree with both Kyle and DJ. The point here is what is the reason. If the hands are in the pocket and it is there for areason (to look like the effect is over and you are stealing something) fine but otherwise not. Your pockets are a place to keep things not to do lazy steals from. They look lame if done badly. a steal from a pocket should never be revealed immediately but rather hidden for as long as possible. use the magic P@@ming. It works! Smile
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Finger/stage manipulation » » Covers for the steals? (0 Likes)
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2022 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.03 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL