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On 2013-10-12 16:07, Chance Wolf wrote:
Regarding the hole/signature discrepancy.
Couldn't you just give the card a casual spin/rotation as a subtle flourish after you turn the card face down and BEFORE you punch the hole?
It seems it would create just enough "confusion" to not bother trying to back track.
Not sure if this is too simple a solution.
Let us know your thoughts.


I really think you don't have to be affraid of the fact the hole being at the same place. As Cameron said, they don't know what will happend so you don't have to care. You have lots of possibilities :

- not show the face

- Make a flourish, as you state

- Let them sign the card on both end (as we told on the DVD)

- Flash the face without letting the spectator take a closer look

- To not make sign the card

I really don't think this is an issue since I've performed Flik hundreds of time without being asking "Wait.. This hole is at the same place !".

But some people could be afraid about it.. Before trying it in the real word ! Smile
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If one is looking for things that spectators could possibly question in this routine, I would think the act of placing their card onto the deck only to immediately remove it again would be #1, not the placement of the hole. But no mention is made of that here, but I suppose that may be because it has become common enough as to no longer bother most magicians. But that was my first "problem" with the routine as that is simply a pet peeve of mine, even though I admit to using it when necessary. I think both "flaws" fly right past people.

Of course if you use the creator's suggestion of signing both ends of the card then the hole placement is no longer an issue. I just don't think it necessary to bother doing that. The spec has no reason to pay any attention to the where the hole is initially, and time misdirection along with the visual shock of the hole jumping would certainly create plenty of doubt about any recollection they may have of the hole.
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I just watched the video. It is an easy to do and very visual effect. It is explained clearly and thoughly. I look forward in taking it out for a spin. Highly recomended from what I have seen so far.

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I have been using this for a bit now, and it works just great! I have not experienced any "finickyness" to it. I have come to the conclusion that I can do this without a certain component and then I have total control over it. However, it works great as devised, and works great without the certain component.

Also, I have built a version of this that allows both sides of the card to be shown. If you watch his DVD, it will be easy to understand how you could do the same. I have also built a version of this using business cards, works great!. Having a LOT of moving hole effects, and having created a moving hole effect myself, I would say that this is THE BEST MOVING HOLE EFFECT, PERIOD.

Also, I was VERY impressed with his teaching on the DVD. Very nice, thorough work.

IMO, this is a MUST have.

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On 2013-09-18 12:17, Harrismatic wrote:
I noticed the matching of the effects yesterday too!

I would consider PORTAL's demo release to beat WMS rather than the opposite. A genuine action that will allow tao to release the effect even if they share the same method.

Besides that, by the time portal's video is uploaded from july I do not see why "Flik" is the "original one". And by the way, we do not even know if the methods are common to judge. Instead we see pretty much identical performances which makes it illogical to say that only the one of them LOOKS AMAZING , exactly because they look the same.

This is an example of parallel inventions and I really do hope that they have different methods as it will prevent many problems that will be caused when the 2 effects will be released. The more I am watching the demos, the more I believe they do.


Is PORTAL being released? Would be great to be able to compare / contrast these.
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Since this seems to only come in blue, and I want to use this with red cards and my business cards, is there enough material included where I will be able to make up a red gimmick and a business card gimmick?
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Hello Bart !

As 1KJ states, you can make more than one gimmick with the material provided. The red version will need a little bit of thinking but not something really hard Smile And even after making a red gimmick, you will have enough material left to repair the blue one AND to make a business card version of it !

No fears to have Smile

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My thoughts on combining this with TAG are to do Flik first, with a business card. Then you tie the string for TAG through the hole that just moved on the business card. Then you have them sign a card and do TAG. They are left with both the business card and the signed card, both of which just had impossible things happen to them.
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On 2013-10-13 10:22, Alex DLF wrote:
Hello Bart !

As 1KJ states, you can make more than one gimmick with the material provided. The red version will need a little bit of thinking but not something really hard Smile And even after making a red gimmick, you will have enough material left to repair the blue one AND to make a business card version of it !

No fears to have Smile

Thanks 1KJ by the way for this awesome review !


Thanks, ordering now.
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On 2013-10-13 10:23, barts185 wrote:
My thoughts on combining this with TAG are to do Flik first, with a business card. Then you tie the string for TAG through the hole that just moved on the business card. Then you have them sign a card and do TAG. They are left with both the business card and the signed card, both of which just had impossible things happen to them.


Great idea ! You are free to use Flik with any trick you want to ! You can even sign the back of the gimmick or put, if you do magic for a compagny, a sticker with company logo on the back of your gimmick..
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On 2013-10-13 10:15, barts185 wrote:
Since this seems to only come in blue, and I want to use this with red cards and my business cards, is there enough material included where I will be able to make up a red gimmick and a business card gimmick?




Let us know how it goes using your business cards. As someone who owns the trick, I would think it would not be as deceptive unless your cards have a lot of printing on them or are of a certain color.
Also, since everyone knows that your entire stack of cards are the same, wondering how that might affect things?
I'm not saying it can't look fantastic, I just have concerns about it, but have not personally tried it. Mainly because it would not look very good at all with my current business card.
So be aware that there is a good chance you will have to have new cards made with this trick in mind.

However, one thing that I really do like about using business cards, is working it out so the card really is given back to them with the hole clearly in a different position than when it started. Although the same could be done with playing cards too but would change the nature of it.
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That's why we sell a playing card version of Flik Smile

With minimal thinking, you can make it in another color, even another back design if you have the thing needed. The business card version I published is here to show that it is possible to make a business card version Smile) but I agree with you, darker business cards will be more deceptive.

People are coming with their own handlings, which is great ! Some people may want a little bit more freedom, control so they use this instead of that, really cool !

Did people actually tried Flik in the real world ? I know bobby did and got strong reactions.
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On 2013-10-13 10:15, barts185 wrote:
Since this seems to only come in blue, and I want to use this with red cards and my business cards, is there enough material included where I will be able to make up a red gimmick and a business card gimmick?




Let us know how it goes using your business cards. As someone who owns the trick, I would think it would not be as deceptive unless your cards have a lot of printing on them or are of a certain color.
Also, since everyone knows that your entire stack of cards are the same, wondering how that might affect things?
I'm not saying it can't look fantastic, I just have concerns about it, but have not personally tried it. Mainly because it would not look very good at all with my current business card.
So be aware that there is a good chance you will have to have new cards made with this trick in mind.

However, one thing that I really do like about using business cards, is working it out so the card really is given back to them with the hole clearly in a different position than when it started. Although the same could be done with playing cards too but would change the nature of it.



I will let you know once I get it and see what I have to do to make it work with business cards. Thanks for the heads-up about what is needed on the card. My cards do have a decent amount of printing on them (look a lot like my avatar), but are not dark in color. I'm actually currently in the process of designing a "more serious" one (as opposed to the cartoony one I currently use) for different venues, will take the color consideration into account.
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It includes enough stuff to make another gimmick. It could work with a business card, it would depend on what is printed on the card.
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Somebody pm'ed with an idea and it is absolutely awesome ! If you don't like the thing you have to had to the gimmick, if you don't care about working a little bit and you want more "control" over it (especially for the no-Flik version) then this is the way to go Smile
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Are you going to share this idea with us
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It's not mine but during the making process of the gimmicks, I thought that if we used this kind of stuff, it could be cool. It's an idea from trickyRicky so I will ask him if he agrees to share this idea which I'm sure he will; Smile
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Hello everyone,

Mickael Chatelain posted a review on a french forum so I just translate it to you here.

"Just a quick word on Flik,
I had the chance to do a lecture at LAD's for World Magic Shop so I could took a look at Flik few hours before the release.
What can I say ?
The effect is as beautiful in live as in video !
The gimmicked card is wonderful, really well crafted for a very visual trick.
I think Alexis did very well for a first trick. I think that you will be surprised by Flik !
I am nobody to judge a trick or and effect but the craftmanship is really great and It needs to be said.
Do like me, take Flik without an hesitation because it's simply beautiful"

Wow ! This is quite good from somebody that I consider to be a master in gimmicks.. Thanks again Mickael !
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I do something that is perhaps similar. When preparing the gimmick, there is a certain something that holds it in place. If you skip that step, then you can simply hold the gimmick with your fingers. This gives a bit more control. However, I find the gimmick works well both ways.
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On 2013-10-15 16:07, 1KJ wrote:
I do something that is perhaps similar. When preparing the gimmick, there is a certain something that holds it in place. If you skip that step, then you can simply hold the gimmick with your fingers. This gives a bit more control. However, I find the gimmick works well both ways.
KJ.


I have tried that but then that requires setting it in front of specs during performance, which has its own issues at least when I have tried it. Or am I missing something?
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