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close-up Loyal user 260 Posts 
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Went ahead and purchased Mark Bendell's Bag 4 Life routine. Pretty impressed with the complete package as everything is top notch. Including the DVD, although, the provided routine on the DVD is pretty basic. Looking to hear from anyone who might be able to provide any suggestions for additional performance/routine suggestions.
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Bobby Puga Loyal user El Centro, CA 201 Posts
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Sometimes I'll do a coin under watch if the time is right. If you already do a coin under watch, just do it after performing bag4life. Have the spec 'sandwich' the bag in their hands with the ungimmicked coin remaining inside the bag. Tell the spec that you're going to make the coin appear back inside the bag, make the gimmick coin 'vanish' and just go on to how you prefer to close your coin under watch routine... Ends clean with everything in specs hands ready for examination... I even let them keep the bag with the penny inside as a good luck penny
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close-up Loyal user 260 Posts
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On 2013-09-18 02:17, Bobby Puga wrote: What are your suggestions if you don't perform coin under watch? |
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Bobby Puga Loyal user El Centro, CA 201 Posts
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On 2013-09-18 11:28, close-up wrote: You can always just go with a one coin routine; make the coin vanish, reappear, or coin thru specs hand, coin on shoulder, etc... Or you can end it with "a little hand" lol, Michael Ammar's - the little hand... it will work with the gimmicked coin as well since they are both ma****ic... Funny little prop and funny way to end the routine... Here's a short vid of Michael performing the little hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6C0xnpJmeU
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close-up Loyal user 260 Posts
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I understand about the additional moves such as vanishes and reproductions etc. What I was interested in is the core of the Bag 4 Life routine itself. The presentation of B4L as a stand alone effect without the additional added moves and vanishes.
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nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts
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Just picked up the perfect plastic Ziplock baggies at Walmart. Three hundred 3"x4" bags for $5.49. Here is a link for them:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Reclosable-Pla......24672067 |
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nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts
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I performed B4L at my regular restaurant gig last night and at a corporate gig this afternoon. Prior to each gig, I preset 10 Ziplock bags with a shiny new penny inside, then sealed the bag. I placed the bags in my shirt pocket and was ready to go.
I can't begin to tell how well B4L was received or how much fun it was to perform. It was very satisfying seeing the spectators who received the B4L as a souvenir sharing it with others. It was especially satisfying when the corporate head approached me and requested that I "do the bag thing" for him. Which I did, and received another "WTF" comment. |
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Paradise Elite user sheffieldEngland 420 Posts
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I have done it with coins in the bag prior to starting the effect, pinch the penny in the bag and tip out all the contents leaving the two coins needed.
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videoman Inner circle 6748 Posts
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On 2013-09-23 15:22, Paradise wrote: That's a very nice idea! Have to play with that. Thanks, Bill |
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Roki Special user London 749 Posts
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Has anyone tried returning the coin to the bag? Using a slightly larger bag. The spectator could examine and put two normal coins in the bag and seal it.Magician then takes the bag back and discretely introduces his gimmick and covers the normal coin with his grip on the bag. You can then remove the gimmicked coin showing one coin as you hold the bag . Then return it by releasing the hidden gripped coin as you retain the gimmicked coin.
I don't have this yet but thought I would get it if there was more the routine. So do you think that would play well? |
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Taterini Special user 604 Posts
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Here's a link to another thread on Bag 4 Life... watch the video link in the thread at about 15:35 for a nice similar effect except in reverse
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......546969#5 |
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David Fillary Special user 662 Posts
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Roki - I don't think that would play as well tbh. I think they would think of an extra coin since you don't show the bag empty. Unless maybe you hold the extra in the top of the bag... Maybe play with it.
I've thought about using it as a lead in to Expansion of Texture. After removing the gimmicked coin, shuttle pass it to the other hand so you can reach into your pocket for a handkerchief. Now you're clean and ready for the next routine. The only problem is that I think Bag 4 Life is stronger and it should really be the other way around, so I haven't tried this yet. I can't think of a reason to demonstrate a penetration again after something so strong. |
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts
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I love this trick. It's quick, but it's a real fooler. And, giving the penny and bag away at the end is a great idea.
I use an English Penny and a silver '64 Kennedy (Lassen). It's the best sp**t coin I've ever seen. It's so well made it's practically examinable. In fact, it IS examinable. Robert |
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dj Inner circle 1180 Posts
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Here is Bag 4 Life demonstration by Arsene Lupin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl......0JoqRY2E |
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Inviso Regular user 126 Posts
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That's hilarious to me. That is almost the exact presentation I've worked out using Canadian coins and half the gimmick. You can show the bag completely empty at the start. The coin can be pulled through the bag and directly into the specs hand.
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Ray Haining Inner circle Hot Springs, AR 1907 Posts
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Dj, thanks for posting that. That was excellent.
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts
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On Nov 18, 2014, Ray Haining wrote: Agreed. Brilliant touch! Thanks for posting the video. Jim |
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Inviso Regular user 126 Posts
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The one thing I noticed in the video is that a crumpled bag and a dull coin or gimmick can detract from the illusion. Coins and gimmick need to be shiny and bag should be smooth.
Randy |
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts
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I agree. I think shiny coins actually enhance the illusion. And, you should always use a new bag, if possible.
I think this is a very interesting handling. But, if you don't have to use a duplicate coin then why use one? You're completely clean with the original handling of Bag 4 Life. Still, this is a very good convincer. I didn't think the way he pulled the coin out of the bag looked very magical, either. You need to make it look like it takes a little effort, IMO. I know when using my split Kennedy, it really does take a bit of effort since the m----t is stronger. Robert |
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videoman Inner circle 6748 Posts
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I have played with almost this exact handling in the past but then decided it wasn't worth it and I was overproving.
Plus, the way I use it is as a quick opening lead-in to the next trick using the coins and it bogged things down too much for my liking. |
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