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RussoMagic.com Loyal user 241 Posts |
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the illusion. I love David Regal's stuff in general - Check out DST DVD if you get a chance.. but a couple questions come to mind...
1.) Too Perfect? - I have had illusions in the past (Ala Card in Spectator's Wallet) were they are just 'too perfect' to be. The people know there is NO WAY that its the same card or that the card would appear in their wallet. So the most common question (from lays) is "How did you switch it"? Any ideas on this? 2.) Mystery - I perform the 'Mystery Box' from John Kennedy for YEARS now! It's is one of the closers in most all my shows (walk around or formal) but there is an element of mystery that is involved. Magic is Mystery... What's in that box? I have always thought that the mystery of not knowing has A.) sparked speculation & interest B.)Created Mystery in general C.)Left a 'way' out for the lays to feel that I somehow am so great to get the card in the box w/o them knowing it or seeing it. Is there a trapdoor? Hole in the table? I have added to the mystery by isolating the box in a glass box (baseball holder) and way across the room, or if at a restaurant sit something on top of it. The tech questions I have are: 1.) Can the box be seen from the backside w/o ruining the illusion? 2.) Does the card look like a card from the side? Or just a flap? 3.) If I sit this away 1/2 ft next to a spectator that is on the side of the box and they peek at it... is it deceptive? 4.) Does it fit into a jacket w/o being really bulking and looks like you have a book in your pocket? Thanks for your time! -R |
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magicbyswh Inner circle North East Tennessee 1548 Posts |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
I agree with you Russo. Perhaps a clear box is to perfect. Is it something for magicians. Is it something we use cause we can?
I've always performed the card from sharpie pen cap. Don't need a box or anything. Been happy with that. I still get the reaction of No #&@?! way. J |
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
I've never bought into the "too perfect" theory. I think magic can suffer from not being routined well and that's where the problem is.
I have done Michael Close's "Big surprise" from his Workers book ( I think $5 ) and I let them hold the box. |
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RussoMagic.com Loyal user 241 Posts |
John C. - thanks for agreeing with me. Zombie, thanks for you viewing. You might be right, but sometimes, its just too amazing. I have only experienced this with the 'Card in spectator's wallet'. I just think the idea, there is no way you could have got the card in my wallet, so a average adult would just come to the natural conclusion that you pretended to pull it out from the wallet and they would be right. I'm going to keep doing the effect, but sometimes things are too impossible. Of course, I have done a signed 'card through window', in which, the window didn't open up at all. The card appeared on the ground outside and it was taken really well and amazing. So, maybe it is something to do with the routine. I will re-examine that 'card in spectator's wallet' effect. Thanks for your comments on Worker#3.. I have it.. and will check it out.
Cordially, R |
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts |
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On 2013-09-24 11:10, RussoMagic.com wrote: Well, there you have your answer. "Card in spectator's wallet" isn't "too perfect." It's got one big imperfection: you need to remove the card. Clarity Box doesn't have this same imperfection. "He must have switched it" does NOT become an answer for the spectators because the trick is designed to negate the notion of a switch. The card is in view the whole time, they see the card fall out of the box into your hand, when could it have been switched? I'm not saying they'll think it was astrally projected into the box. I'm just saying the method used is not in their "vocabulary," so it leaves them dumbfounded. Not too perfect, just regular perfect. |
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RussoMagic.com Loyal user 241 Posts |
Good point Magicsquared. Do you have the box? What if the spectator looks from the backside? I know putting a box on a restaurant table, a lot of times, people will peer around at all angles. I'm just wondering if this will ruin the illusion?
Thanks, R |
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1990 Posts |
Angles are great from 0 to 180 people can't look at the back, well, of they aren't paying attention to the box, they can be sleightly behind it but not too much.
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
If you could do magic from a laymen s point of view it should be perfect. There always going to try and guess to them self's. I work ver hard to make it perfect. If a gimmick like the clear box can get me there I all for it.
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
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On 2013-09-24 15:02, MR Effecto wrote: That's a very cogent observation. EVERY "trick" should be too perfect when considered from the spectator/audience participant perspective... Julie |
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Platt Inner circle New York 2011 Posts |
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On 2013-09-24 15:02, MR Effecto wrote: Too perfect theory is a fascinating topic. Perhaps the biggest problem with it and the reason it's debated is the lack of agreement on a definition. If everything is so perfect with the trick that it can only lead the spectator to one conclusion- the right one, it falls under the too perfect theory. Cigarette thru Quarter is the perfect 'too perfect' example. If you perform it in such a way that you leave no shadow of a doubt that the cigarette, in fact, went through the coin, many people will have only one to go in their head. And they'd be right or right enough. It's why mentalist's using a NW are often best off being off by one. So what makes something perfect vs 'too perfect'? If you can rule out the one place they could go in their head (that's the correct solution), you have overcome too perfect and have a perfect effect.
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sabitu Special user USA 533 Posts |
Well said Platt. That's why I choose not to use the Clarity Box for a card (or other item) to impossible location. I prefer the card I'm going to reveal to be out of view if I'm doing that type of effect.
I use the Clarity Box for a mentalism routine where I reveal a prediction written on my business card and it works perfectly for this. |
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ncsteve Veteran user North Carolina 313 Posts |
There's a new Wizard Review out today with a review of the Clarity Box
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kksyazV7Y......EJx6E-Fw |
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Scott Fridinger Special user Gloucester Pt, VA 893 Posts |
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On 2013-09-25 00:26, sabitu wrote: Bingo, I use mine for a mental effect as well. I have a label that says "the future" with a fold note card in there. From there I can do so many different things. Confabulation, use and index, NW, whatever. I think the real problem with many of the tricks that come out are simply the fact that you are using cards (here it comes.) Now, as far as the clarity box I don't see it any different than any other card to impossible location. Heck, with this and mystery box the card is folded. This is more than a simple switch. And just because you can't see into the mystery box doesn't mean that people don't know what is going to happen. I am pretty sure they know something is going to end up in there.
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
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On 2013-09-25 14:45, Scott Fridinger wrote: "...And just because you can't see into the mystery box doesn't mean that people don't know what is going to happen. I am pretty sure they know something is going to end up in there." [end quote] You can always remove something else from the box first (rubber bands, string, paperclips etc.); set the Mystery Box aside and come back to it later for the powerful card or money finale'. This way you will catch your unwary audience off guard and all will enjoy your dynamite presentation. Julie |
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thorsten dankworth Regular user 101 Posts |
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On 2013-09-21 16:35, RussoMagic.com wrote: The "too perfect theory" only exist within the heads of some magic-mentalists. ;-) If you want to use this box, there is no "too perfect". It works, because you are believable or it doesn´t work because you and what you do isn´t believable. It depends just on you! Quote:
On 2013-09-21 16:35, RussoMagic.com wrote: To 1: No 2: No 3: ??? Look at answer 2 4: yes, but depending on your jacket, it won´t look very fashioned |
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hbwolkov Inner circle 2947 Posts |
I wish I would be criticized for being too perfect. This is unlikely to happen given my marvelous imperfections that make me human and allow others to identify with me and my circumstances.A perfect trick or illusion on the other hand would be highly coveted.
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polygonsmagic Veteran user 372 Posts |
It's a great piece of magic. I have switched out the gaff for the mentalism routine. I prfer it for that as I have other such devices to perform card to impossible location. David does a great job explaining the prop and supplies you with the mentalism routine on the dvd. You just have to go and buy a few simple things at staples.
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magicbyswh Inner circle North East Tennessee 1548 Posts |
If you are still on the fence about the Clarity box - Bob Solari magic has it at 10% off. I have mine so here is a chance to get it at a reduced price. http://www.bobsolarimagic.com/shop/
Just trying to save you all some money when I see a good deal.
Creator of Cereal Brainwave, Creator of the Tossed out Book
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cardnerd New user 35 Posts |
No. If your spectators get straight side on or a little behind your boned. Happened to me.
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