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Kim
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Another suggetion is to read the biographies and autobiographies of some of the well known psychis,past and present.Not for tricks and techniques,but to see how they presented themselves as miracle workers.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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I am a great believer in immersing yourself in as much knowledge and material as you can from the start, both advanced material and beginner stuff. As your learning curve levels out you will go back and see greater depth in the material and it will start to make sense. Take what is useful, discard that which is useless and develop from there.
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Corinda maybe,annemann...no.probably have to agree with a previous posting and say karl Fulves,the 0 step.
good luck.
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If you think that the best way to be a good mentalist is to study books then you should start with Corinda.
For me it was better with a combination between theory and practise.
I bought Coringa. Boring and at that level nearly useless. Like starting to learn a language by studying an encyclopedia. You need to talk, listen, look and read.
If I then knew what I know now I would start with Max Maven's video Videomind, Osterlind's DVD Mind mysteries and Bob Cassidy's video. Learn one thing from each, that I like and then exercise and practise.
I would get a partner to talk with and exchange experiences.
Then read some modern books. And then the classics.
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This will be one neverending discussion...
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I have suggested in another post that it would be a good thing for beginners to read books by Banachek, Knepper and Jermay etc. I feel that by at least having some knowledge of what these artists can and do perform the ground will be set.

I should make it clear that I don't think the beginner should attempt to PERFORM the effects but rather use the information as inspiration to learn and master the basics found in Corinda / Annemann.

What do you think ?
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What an interesting thread!

Still relevant in this day and age?

I think it may be, however I've heard it's extremely difficult to get your hands on the Derren Brown books these days... The first books that I read, the ones that really got me thinking, were 'Magic & Showmanship' by Henning Nelms and 'Magic by Misdirection' by Fitzkee. After reading these I started to experiment with tricks and presentational frameworks that suited me, I learnt by trial and error - failed a hell of a lot of the time but made an amazing amount of progress at the same time.

Many years later Derren Brown appeared on our TV screens and then mentalism became so popular that every Tom, Dick and Harry wanted to get in on the act!

Personally I enjoyed reading the Brown books, picked up some useful information and performed none of the tricks but let the concepts sink in to my subconscious mind - much of the presentational side of these books is what Nelms spoke of many years before, the psychology in the Brown books is most informative, yet overlooked by the masses who are just looking for tricks!

Any books can be useful, I read voraciously on many different subjects including magic/mentalism... but the main ingredient required for this wonderful art-form is the Imagination, and unfortunately in this day and age I feel that is what the majority lack the most.

I'm curious to hear other viewpoints on this in 2010.

Look forward to reading your thoughts.

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First book I bought was Prism by Max Maven. It was the only mentalism book in the shop at the time and the guy on the front looked kinda weird and cool which is why I bought it!

Im very glad I did.

I didn't buy 13 Steps or PMM until years afer getting into mentalism. I learnt most things from Banachecks Psi Series and Max Mavens Videomind Series DVDs.

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I think there's a difference between a mentalist and a magician who does some mental effects. If you just want to do some mental effects, there are tons of videos and books you can take from. Most magicians, in my experience, study and set up their shows like a smorgasbord. A little from here and a little from there without thinking of things such as "an act" or continuity.

If someone wants to be a mentalist, period, then knowing the craft, including its history, is important. That means Corinda. That means Anneman. That means Nelson. That means Brown and Banachek.

To my mind it also means Fitzkee's The Trick Brain.
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As I've said more times than I care to remember, before one tackles Corinda, Annemann, Nelson, Newman, Banachek, Brown and the others whose names and works are always mentioned one should lay a proper foundation and by far the best guidance one can find for doing so is found in Bob Cassidy's "The Thirty-Nine Steps: A Mentalist's Library of Essential Works." It is an extract from his larger "Fundamentals of Professional Mentalism." Both are available as instantly downloadable e-manuscripts from http://www.Lybrary.com -- best of all, "The Thirty-Nine Steps" is free. Shortcutting the process by starting with Corinda, Annemann et al is like trying to run before you have learned to crawl.

Just my $0.02
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Even though I frequently recommend Corinda as the place to start, in truth my very first mentalism book was Kaye's "The Handbook of Mental Magic" (of which I still own). That book piqued my interest and started my exploration for other texts on the subject.
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My first books on mentalism were the Sensational Mentalism books by Nelson.
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Read all books...then as your learning curve stabilizes....write your own book/effects.
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I got into this rather late with a particular interest in real mind control. For that reason my first three books on the subject were 7 Deceptions by Luke Jermay, Pure Effect by Derren Brown and Kentonism by Kenton Knepper. Fortunately I was only encouraged when I discovered that the illusion of real mind control was just as much fun as the real stuff.

After those three I swiftly got a copy of 13 Steps Corinda Smile I still refer to all four of these books for inspiration.

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The Amateur Magician's Handbook by "Hays." Then almost anything except for Brown.

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