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CesaralM Loyal user 275 Posts |
Nick....Congratulations for such an amazing result!
This gives to the Cesaral Magic Bell a strong story!! Thanks!!! Cesar Alonso (Cesaral Magic) www.cesaral.com |
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Nick Birch Regular user Holmfirth, UK 160 Posts |
Thanks for your kind words Cesar.
I used the box and photos for the second time at a Halloween show on Friday evening and one woman almost passed out when the bell rang! It certainly adds to the atmosphere. Nick
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Darkness Inner circle 1626 Posts |
Looks like a winner!
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MentalistCreationLab Inner circle 1528 Posts |
This is from a post I made back in 2012
Here's a spirit bell that no one seems to mention these days Campana di Filippo A Kinetic Spirit Bell by Alain Bellon from 2005. This is one of many personal favorites unfortunately I believe its no longer available. Here is a photo to another type of spirit bell that is seldom seen. http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa120......bell.jpg This style of bell of which there are several styles, the one shown here the bells are on thin hemp cord. This style of apparatus is used during a ghost hunt or a seance as an early audible detection of a spirit entering the room. It is a very nice psychological tool although a paranormal one and it can be used with other bells as well. Kinda helps out with the problem of “why did he bring an old bell? I thought this was a séance!” Now the real questions as I see when it comes down to using spiritualists devices such as spirit bells is do you want gaffed, psychological or impromptu? The bell from Alain Bellon is gaffed. However it is 100 percent examinable before and after the seance is as clean as they come. Never been busted using that wonderful bell. Mainly its very hard for a layperson to know its diabolical secret. Its so cool I wont even dare post a photo of what it looks like. Either you know what it is or you don't. It is as simple as that. I probably said to much by giving you the name of the bell to begin with. However that said, Bellon should be mentioned if for no other reason than documentation of historic spirit bell creators and or manufactures. Now when it comes to impromptu and psychological bells that use only the simple objects to construct by the participant or a standard hand bell, two other works also come to my mind and that is my Time of Departure and the Bell from Hell. Both impromptu and use either household items or a standard hand bell. The second one is my favorite for only the person whom you are working with will hear its ring and is about as paranormal as it gets in those sort of occasions. The next question that comes to mind is the cost some bells. Some spirit bells in my opinion are way too expensive for what your getting. Although there are a few higher end bells worth the money Outlaw Effects, Taylor Engineering and the Door Knocker are just a few off the top of my head that are worthy and rather fun. Here is a short list some other types of spirit bells that can be made for a fraction of the cost as some of the higher end bells. The bells I am going to mention next are also great place to start if your unsure if the spirit bell thing is for you or if you just cannot spend the big money on some of the higher end spirit bells because the wife will not allow it. So if price is an issue or your new to the spirit bell thing here are few others that are very good spirit bells for the money and of low cost, besides mine that is. Some good examples of low cost build it yourself quality bells can be found form Jolyon Jenkins who has the instructions to build your own over at the Magic Nook for a fiver each. By the way I am a big fan of the stuff that Jenkins has been putting out and have built much of it and it works better than I could have imaged and just for a few twenties or less in parts you can build several nice things. Best of all if you do not like the Jenkins design as it is rater basic for explanatory reasons you can make it to fit your personal tastes by doing a few tricks such as aging the platforms up a bit. Aging does not take that long or is not that hard to do. I also want to point out another bell that can be found over at E. Raymond Carlyle place as its a great simple bell as well that most workers either ignore or do not know about. Real shame too since its one of the best glass bells ever created. I do have a large private collection of spirit bells, its almost as large as my chair prediction collection. I also wanted to mention there are several hundred spirit bells that have been made over the years most of them are rare and very hard to find, some are gaffed some are not and a few are possessed and will ring by themselves. Some bells should not be played with as they are haunted artifacts. One in particular I thought was haunted turned out to be one of the sneakiest and best hidden gaffs I have ever seen. No really here are a couple of photos Can you tell how its gaffed? http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa120......1236.jpg http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa120......1233.jpg What you are seeing in the above photos is the bell I mentioned a moment ago, it does not use any of the old methods, no ma***ts, thr**d, no se**nd b*lls or any of the other stuff. It so good I thought it was just simply put back as haunted for many years until one day.... ____________________________________ Since the time of this post back in 2012 I still have never told anyone how that last little haunted bell I showed back then works and I never will. That said I am still a fan of the bells I mentioned in the previous post from 2012. Taylor, Roth, Bellon, Carlyle, Jenkins (DIY) all have great bells. Now here is something else about the bells on the hemp cord that I mentioned above that I did not bring up in 2012. This item is a great and cheap alternative to a more expensive and elaborate spirit bells as it provides and a set up,context and way for a spirit to make contact during the seance. This context is still there even if no bell is used and you are using a different method to create spirit sounds such as knocks. Also the bells on hemp cord can be used in conjunction with other spirit bells within the same venue or seance. The bells on cord also give the worker a plausible reason to bring out a different style of bell during the performance and helps to take some of the heat off as it were of the other “bell” used later in the performance. Here's why. Chances are that members of the audience have played with these hanging bells on a cord and found them to be completly normal. This will lend way to them thinking the other bell(s) brought forth later are also normal and not unusual in any way. In fact, they are just bells like a tambourine is just a tambourine when brought forth to play strange music before the séance begins. (Reference to Jonathan Koons and John Tippie styles of séance circa Ohio during the 1850s.) |
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MentalistCreationLab Inner circle 1528 Posts |
In the even the above links are not working below are fresh links to the photos
http://s202.photobucket.com/user/bllmont......jpg.html http://s202.photobucket.com/user/bllmont......jpg.html http://s202.photobucket.com/user/bllmont......jpg.html |
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corvus corax New user 56 Posts |
Bill,
Thank you for sharing these pictures. I am intrigued by both of the bells. The ones on the string look so fragile, this fits perfectly with spirits lightly drifting around. And the other bell is a beauty. Clearly impossible to be gaffed . Would freak me out as well. |
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aheads Regular user Stockholm, Sweden 188 Posts |
I made my own. I looked around and saw that nothing really fitted my needs as I was looking for a Safety Coffin bell. So I made one for a grand total of around $150 (IIRC) and that was including a transmitter/receiver from Nick Wenger.
My bell is supposed to be an original Franz Vester Safety Coffin Bell, salvaged from a family tomb after it failed to help at the critical moment. The lady who salavged it had sent it back to Vester saying that it didn't help. He had it mounted on a brass hook on a wooden base and kept it on his desk to remind him. It is small, aged brass bell with a small wooden handle and a brass ring on the top. In reality, Safety Coffin bells were small and high pitched - not big and loud school bells. Most didn't even have handles actually. The Cesaral Bell looks great but the latest framing for it (as a Safety Coffin Bell) is wrong. It has no means of being suspended from the headstone or tomb door, so how did it work? The others I have seen look very dramatic but also look like props from horror movies. I think that you have to know what you want to do with it before you buy/make it.
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corvus corax New user 56 Posts |
Aheads, Can you share a picture?
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aheads Regular user Stockholm, Sweden 188 Posts |
Sure thing, Corvus.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/uploa......o-13.jpg The base of the bell is a little on the thick side. It didn't need to be that thick but I wanted it to look like an ornament rather than just a wooden board. Edit: This was when it was brand new. I have since aged the brass a little and the shine has dulled a little off the varnished pieces.
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Christopher Taylor V.I.P. British Columbia Canada 2314 Posts |
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On Nov 19, 2013, CesaralM wrote: Actually, Death Toll can be picked up and moved by a spectator; the dome can be removed by a spectator and the bell sits nicely on a participant's open palms, where it can ring just as easily as it can on a table. Just be sure to coach the person holding it not to drop it. http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah15......9e8c.jpg Christopher |
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corvus corax New user 56 Posts |
Thanks for the picture, Ahead. That looks like some nice woodwork. I assume the base serves a function. How long did it take you to make it?
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
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On Nov 6, 2014, Christopher Taylor wrote: Its also the only bell that can be a subtle dual reality sub-con cueing device where a person is convinced they rang the bell and actually believe it to be so... heheheeh
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
Actually, the Hobbs bell and stand can be assembled by the spec
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aheads Regular user Stockholm, Sweden 188 Posts |
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On Nov 6, 2014, corvus corax wrote: Thanks. It took a about a week to design and then find and buy all the bits I required. Then 3 days in total to build (including drying times). Then I had to wait for one vital part from the US which took a few weeks to deliver. The parts list was a little tricky but once you know what you need then it goes quite quickly. For example, rather than make my own base, I bought a ready-made square cap piece which is for decorating the top of upright posts used in staircases. It looked just like a plinth. The bell was a cheap souvenir bell found in any gift shop. I changed out the handle to one which came from a decorative signil stamp (the sort you use to press an image into melted wax). I am by no means skilled in woodwork and did this at my kitchen table with a drill, a hammer and chisel, sandpaper, wood stain and varnish.
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Cool aheads - I'm just finishing a wood work project too - it's hell when starting out - I'm finishing my 8th version of a gimmicked book display I'll post about elsewhere soon - but it's hell - kudos to those wood worker bizarrists out there.... I'm surprised I haven't severed s finger yet
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Christopher Taylor V.I.P. British Columbia Canada 2314 Posts |
This is Spidey's poster, which he was good enough to share with me: http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah15......f232.jpg Recognize the bell?
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aheads Regular user Stockholm, Sweden 188 Posts |
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On Nov 7, 2014, Dr Spektor wrote: Thanks Dr. Spektor. The gimmicked book display - was this for your office or showroom? I have a vague memory that someone was kitting out a room and had asked for suggestions a few months back.
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