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If you saw this coming after you, tell me this would not make you do a spit take.

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I really didn't know whether it was coming or going. Literally. Smile

Hope this isn't the beginnings of Skynet. Smile
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Well, I know it's supposed to be kind of cool and I guess it is, and let me say that I am the first to welcome and bow down to our mechanical insect overlords, but frankly my reaction was what a waste of intelligence and ingenuity.
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Wouldn't really be a waste, as this was designed to find a non-wheeled propelled vehicle to navigate non-conventional terrain like rocky mountains and the woods. Of course the first agenda is military applications but I can see how this will benefit many in the future. Especially for the disabled as a replacement to guide dogs, with Internet connection and easier upkeep.

And a dang cool 'bike' with legs! Smile

Now, if only they can make it not be so dang ugly! Smile

I can't tell its head from its arse! Smile
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If the technology can be used for the disabled as a replacement for guide dogs, then let's fund and build replacements for guide dogs in the first place.
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On 2013-10-11 08:44, landmark wrote:
If the technology can be used for the disabled as a replacement for guide dogs, then let's fund and build replacements for guide dogs in the first place.


Just like the Net came from a military network of computers readied for a nuclear war aftermath, so I feel it will be with this.

At least that's how I see it... Smile

It is what it is, where it is already, let's make the best of it.

If them evil robots don't make us into batteries first that is. Smile
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Looks like a prototype for an Imperial Walker.
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Looks like a prototype for an Imperial Walker.


Then we have nothing to worry about. Some cables will do the job to stop them. Smile
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The dream of land-based drones to patrol America's streets is one step closer to fruition. Smile
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frankly my reaction was what a waste of intelligence and ingenuity


Still in its infancy. Who would have thought that the automobiles of the 19th century would lead to what we drive today, or that the Wright brothers' flyer would lead to an A-380?

I've followed the development of the Boston Dynamics technology on YouTube for a couple of years, and the robots are getting better and better - more and more stable, and faster and faster.

I think that this work may also lead to a better understanding of the way that biological mechanisms of locomotion work, with positive implications for orthopedics, sports medicine, and physical training.
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I think that this work may also lead to a better understanding of the way that biological mechanisms of locomotion work, with positive implications for orthopedics, sports medicine, and physical training.

Then let's fund that and not military and quasi-military uses.
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The dream of land-based drones to patrol America's streets is one step closer to fruition. Smile


I attended the Drones and Aerial Robotics Conference (DARC) at New York University this weekend. The panelists included people from the military, business, engineering, computer science, journalists, and academia. If there's interest, I'll post some of my impressions.
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Sure, go for it.
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A) Most mammals have their hind legs articulated in the opposite direction of the articulation of their front legs, whereas DARPS's cheetah does not; that's probably a design flaw.

B) When most mammals gallop, it's a three-beat gait: one front foot, the other front foot and the diagonally opposite hind foot together, the other hind foot. DARPA's cheetah doesn't gallop in a three-beat gait; that's probably a design flaw.
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Sure, go for it.


Well, I attended three panels of the Drone and Aerial Robotics Conference (DARC) on Friday at New York University.

The conference was billed as "a multi-stakeholder think tank to study and shape drone law...it's not everyday that hobbyists, roboticists, fighter pilots, officials, entrepreneurs, activists, and hackers get together to talk about the future." It was funded by, among others, the MacArthur Foundation and Parrot, a hobbyest drone manufacturer.

Though there were some nominal panels talking about the ethics of drones, the majority of the attendees took the use of drones in military and civilian use as a given. As a little piece of background, the FAA is presently trying to hammer out the rules for airspace use and licenses for the deployment of drones over NYC. The NYPD has expressed great interest in copying what their counterparts in Seattle are already doing--using drones for surveillance of the domestic populace.

As you might suspect, this does not sit well with me. Some friends of mine, The Granny Peace Brigade, a small group of elderly activists, some who go back to the Freedom Ride era, told me of their plans to protest the conference outside NYU, and invited me along, as I'm still able to call out a protest chant loud enough to be heard over the din of the local taxi traffic.

They know a very fine artist, Nick, who created a life size replica of a surveillance drone, and he was good enough to bring it along to the protest, and we set it up about 15 feet from the outside of the doors of the conference. Not unsurprisingly, the drone attracted a lot of attention, and we were able to talk with a lot of the passersby about why we thought domestic drones was a really horrible idea.

"But there are surveillance cameras anyway all over the city," was one common comment. "True," I answered, "But do you think the police should have the right to surveil you while you are out in your backyard sunning yourself? Take video through your windows? Follow you from door to door, 24/7 through dropping your children off to school to your dinner date and bedroom arrangements? Now imagine that this can all be done by not only the NYPD but private enterprises. Is this something we want to open ourselves up to?" I spoke with several NYU students who were very bright but were not aware of what was happening in their own city and country. I must commend them for their open minds, and willingness to listen critically and ask questions.

At one point, the NYPD came by and told us we had to move from the area of the conference's front door. We replied that we were not blocking either the door or pedestrian traffic--indeed, the people from the conference who had to escape for a smoke were more of an obstruction to passage than we were--and it looked for a moment that there was going to be a spot of unpleasantness between us and the NYPD.

At about that point, however, one of the conference organizers poked her head out and asked if we would like to come in to attend the conference. Somewhat surprised, my friend Joan and I said yes, and we were duly given passes and ushered in...

Don't want to monopolize things here, I'll be glad to go on though, if there's interest...
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Sure, go for it. Or start a new thread if you are concerned about monopolizing.
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) Most mammals have their hind legs articulated in the opposite direction of the articulation of their front legs, whereas DARPS's cheetah does not; that's probably a design flaw.

B) When most mammals gallop, it's a three-beat gait: one front foot, the other front foot and the diagonally opposite hind foot together, the other hind foot. DARPA's cheetah doesn't gallop in a three-beat gait; that's probably a design flaw.


Hard to believe, 135 years after Muybridge's work, that the engineers would not be aware of those particulars. Perhaps they designed differently due to limitations in the motors that activate their mechanisms.
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Maybe what works best for flesh and bone is not the same as what works best for steel and rubber?

Regarding point B, though, in the slo mo I thought that's what the Darpa 'flea' was doing. Though even in slo mo it wasn't completely clear, at least not to me.

What I was wondering about, is why they restricted themselves to a four legged creature that moves forward and backward. Why not a creature that can move as easily in any direction?
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On 2013-10-11 08:25, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
Wouldn't really be a waste, as this was designed to find a non-wheeled propelled vehicle to navigate non-conventional terrain like rocky mountains and the woods. Of course the first agenda is military applications but I can see how this will benefit many in the future. Especially for the disabled as a replacement to guide dogs, with Internet connection and easier upkeep.

And a dang cool 'bike' with legs! Smile

Now, if only they can make it not be so dang ugly! Smile

I can't tell its head from its arse! Smile


If it's designed to navigate non-conventional terrain like rocky mountains and the woods, I would have liked to see it running on something other than a road!
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