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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
...might not be so pure as their producers claim. From CBC
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A DNA test of herbal products has found that most of them contained cheaper fillers and plant ingredients not listed on the label, some of which pose "serious health risks." The scientific article is partially available here
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
Don't you hate when that happens?
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Aw, gee... you mean there isn't REALLY snake oil in that stuff??
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
That is why you ahould know the growers and suppliers of your herbal products! Myself, I do. No, not just cannabis either. Lemon Balm and mint. Both are used in tea. Myself, I would stay away from anything not in its natural state. Like concentrated.
Myself, I find it is safest to try the leaf herb in a tea first. Ginkgo and St. John's wort, I have never understood the significance of, and Echinacea has never been really proven. For sleep, I have used Chamomile, Lemon Balm and Cannabis. My strain this month is White Fire Kush (also known as "Wifi"). Two or three bowls, I can be asleep in fifteen minutes. If you are interested in growing your own herbal products, make sure you educate yourself thoroughly on their growth and use. Don't assume Lemon Balm won't hurt you. Know what works for you. Ginkgo, St. John's wort and Echinacea to me, ARE snake-oil remedies that so far... have not been proven to do anything. Chamomile and Lemon Balm HAVE been good performers. I use Cannabis because I have Glaucoma. I use it to put me to sleep, though. It is so effective. There is no residual effect the next day, either. The Lemon Balm is milder. Has that herbal calming effect. Chamomile makes me sick. I don't know why. I can't do it. Besides, it tastes awful... Doug |
landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Noted. But I'm not too excited.
Here are the possible side effects from the #1 most prescribed drug in the US, hydrocodone/acetominaphen: Quote:
Increased risk of acute liver failure in patients with underlying liver disease. Hypersensitivity and anaphylaxis reported; d/c if signs/symptoms occur. May produce dose-related respiratory depression, and irregular and periodic breathing. Respiratory depressant effects and CSF pressure elevation capacity may be markedly exaggerated in the presence of head injury, other intracranial lesions or a preexisting increased intracranial pressure. May obscure diagnosis or clinical course of head injuries or acute abdominal conditions. Potential for abuse. Caution with hypothyroidism, Addison's disease, prostatic hypertrophy, urethral stricture, severe hepatic/renal impairment, or in elderly/debilitated. Suppresses the cough reflex; caution with pulmonary disease and in postoperative use. Physical dependence and tolerance may develop. The #10 most prescribed drug, hydrochlorothiazide: Quote:
WARNINGS/PRECAUTIONS Yes one should keep clear of soy and other possible allergens, and some of the loose Chinese herbs have been found to have high levels of arsenic. But my guess is that someone whose main drugs are herbs is not at any more, and probably much less, risk than someone taking prescription drugs.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2013-10-11 23:35, landmark wrote: This has been one of my daily drugs for over 20 years. Without it, I would likely be dead now. The benefits, at least for me, seem to outweigh the risks.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
No doubt, Michael. I'm sure it has helped many. My only point was that the same could be said for the herbal products, and on average I suspect the side effects are less harmful. Whether the benefits are equivalent is a whole other matter.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
Landmark, I think that the bigger issue is that products contain ingredients that are not documented. The makers of herbals appear to have the same motivation as big pharma but without the regulations.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
It seems that if someone wanted to use herbs for health reasons it would be best to buy them from the bulk section where you can scoop it yourself rather than buying little capsules with Buddha-Knows-What in them. A lot of times there are even fillers listed on the ingredients but people don't read them. I just can't see spending $10 on a bottle of pills which each have 5 grams of dried lawn clippings.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2013-10-12 01:02, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Money undiluted by ethics?
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