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pnielan Regular user Northern California 154 Posts |
I've seen this referenced quite a bit, generally in the context with a certain move. But hoping to hear more about:
1.) Overall what is the purpose and for what kind of moves does it help vs. not help 2.) What are different (and maybe natural) ways of accomplishing this? 3.) Is it possible with an older borrowed deck? 4.) When do you want to "put air" into the deck? |
foolsnobody Special user Buffalo, NY 843 Posts |
See John Racherbaumer Card Finesse I *think* Volume 1 the section "Airing the Str*p**t" --it might be Volume 2, I don't know.I don't know why you would want to take air out.
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Bulla Special user Honolulu, HI 674 Posts |
The only instance I can think of where you would take air out is when doing a one handed DL.
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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
You also want to take the air out when tossing a double to the table, or sliding a double across the table. If there's air in between the cards, they'll separate.
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I heard from a friend that anecdotal evidence is actually quite reliable. |
The Dowser Special user Canada 763 Posts |
"Putting air into the deck" (if this is the way it was referenced) has nothing to do with double lifts and everything do do with shuffle work.
Imagine you are about to do the ribbon drop flourish. The single preparatory move for that flourish is an extreme example of putting air into the deck. On the table, it is done by first bevelling the cards towards you and then re-squaring them with a slight lifting motion of the thumbs (as explained in card finesse referenced above). This manoeuvre assists some operators with push through shuffles, spotting fine marks or crimps, or pulling n-strippers. Some one checking a deck for edge work may also put air into the deck just as if they were getting ready for a ribbon drop flourish... you can see a video of this being done on Steve Forte's gambling protection series. Putting air into the deck can also be used to misrepresent the size of a deck or a talon of cards. There are some card effects based on the very principle. in all cases "putting air" into the deck refers to creating space between the cards, in some cases this is not a very perceivable spacing but simply amounts to the deck not being squared as "tightly" as it previously was. For most shuffle applications the purpose is to reduce friction and enable interlaced cards to move more freely during a push through or strip out. |
drumdemon420 Veteran user 396 Posts |
Taking the air out of the cards helps a lot when trying to do some types of tabled faro shuffles. It helps to keep those pesky doubles from creeping in there.
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pnielan Regular user Northern California 154 Posts |
Re the last post:
That's the way I've seen it referenced, usually as part of a false cut description. When Bill Malone mentions it, I take it seriously. My understanding is that when you want the cards to behave as a block, then "you take the air out of the cards". But what are the most accepted uses? And what's the best, most natural way to do it? |
pnielan Regular user Northern California 154 Posts |
Re the last post:
That's the way I've seen it referenced, usually as part of a false cut description. When Bill Malone mentions it, I take it seriously. My understanding is that when you want the cards to behave as a block, then "you take the air out of the cards". But what are the most accepted uses? And what's the best, most natural way to do it? |
pnielan Regular user Northern California 154 Posts |
Re the last post:
That's the way I've seen it referenced, usually as part of a false cut description. When Bill Malone mentions it, I take it seriously. My understanding is that when you want the cards to behave as a block, then "you take the air out of the cards". But what are the most accepted uses? And what's the best, most natural way to do it? |
drumdemon420 Veteran user 396 Posts |
I'm honestly not sure about the most accepted methods. I only do it for the tabled faro and there really isn't much of a method to it. Once the cards are on the table, and squared up, I just press down on the corners to be woven with my forefingers. Not much of a science to that. Sorry, I don't have more input but that's really all there is to it for me.
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The Dowser Special user Canada 763 Posts |
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On 2013-10-17 23:50, pnielan wrote: Where do you see it referenced this way? Where does Bill Malone say this? |
pnielan Regular user Northern California 154 Posts |
On one of his video tapes (sorry don't have name right now), as part of teaching a series of moves (without effects).
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NicholasD Inner circle 1458 Posts |
I mainly use it for tabled riffle shuffle work. As previously mentioned, it reduces friction during push thru shuffles and other similar work. I put the air in as I riffle for the shuffle.
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