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Mac_Stone
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I'd be very interested to hear about the quality of the reel itself.
Rudy Sanchez
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On Jun 21, 2021, Mac_Stone wrote:
I'd be very interested to hear about the quality of the reel itself.

The take up reel is nice very well made. It’s appears to be all aluminum.
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Bill Hegbli
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A new product, the Tommy Wonder vanishing Bird cage is now available on the magic market. They will go fast.

Comes with his style cage and take up reel

I believe they will sell out fast.
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On Jun 22, 2021, Bill Hegbli wrote:
A new product, the Tommy Wonder vanishing Bird cage is now available on the magic market. They will go fast.

Comes with his style cage and take up reel

I believe they will sell out fast.


That's what we've been discussing, Bill. The take up reel does look nice, but as Rudy Sanchez has noted, the big question is how well is the cage constructed. Specifically, how well are the rivets made. Before I purchased my Owens cage (which, unfortunately, I sold many years ago), I owned an Abbotts cage. I had nothing but trouble with the Abbotts, but the Owens was a joy to perform. Not saying that the Tommy Wonder cages now being sold aren't better than that old Abbotts - just saying we don't know...
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The take up reel is sold separately, but when I went to website a few hours later, they had taken down the ad.

The wonder cage is just like the small India Cage. He had to put extra wires over all the wires sticking out. I have the Wonder video where he points out all the points that needs to be covered so nothing catches.

I also owned the Abbott's and Owen cages. Over the years sold them off. The Owen was just to large, it was hard and stiff for an smooth collapse.

As far as if the new cages are better, hard to say, as the advertising, says the guy making them, added a number of changes to the design, so it is not a true Tommy Wonder model.

Once again, they are trying to sell something without a live demo and review by the craftsman who makes them. I did not read refund policy either.
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Bill…where do you get your info? The take up reel isn’t sold separately nor is the pulley.
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Bill Hegbli
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Like I said, I received an email from a dealer, I am not allowed to give their name on the Café.

I emailed them that I went to their website to order it, and they replied like they did not know anything about their listing earlier yesterday.
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Bill, you are not allowed to give the name of the dealer on the Café??!! Is that a new Café rule or does your dealer not want its name given? I ask because posters name dealers all the time on the Café. In any event, apropos of Rudy's comments on cage construction, I note that Tommy Wonder provides an excellent primer on the do's and don't's of cage construction in Vol. II of 'The Books of Wonder.' He also describes a simple test you can perform to determine if a cage is flawed.
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As I understand, the best cages from Owens where when Fred Rickard was making them. I know Walter Blaney always had a Rickard made cage for years. Owen's cages made after Fred's passing were the same dimensions but they had some trouble with the riveting which is why they often had to be broken in. The riveting is the key. Some cages where made with little blobs of solder on the bars to hold them up and they just did not hold up over the years.
As for the Abbott cages, I asked Harry Blackstone why he used a non rigid cage compared to rigid. He said first off he wore through half the show so it need to be flexible. (if you see me sometime in person asks me about how he got rid of the cage during the show). Second, he did not want to break a kid's fingers if he stuck them through the bars. What most people don't know was Harry's cages used slightly different type of brass than the normal Abbott's cages. They were less susceptible to the bending of the bars. BTW, Harry learned to do the birdcage from Bert Allerton not his father.
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That's really interesting information, Richard. As I said earlier, the breadth of knowledge about this art, of a number of the members of the Café, is truly extraordinary. Thanks for taking the time to post that.
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