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This is just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more to this and things run much deeper. While it can be an opportunity for those with the bankroll to carry them for a year or two while establishing yourself and making enough noise to cut through the initial barriers, like most things in Vegas, the odds are against you and are with the house.

Even having a good business sense may not be enough as on top of everything in the article, other politics and unseen elements also come into play.

Anyone who thinks of coming to Vegas to attempt the show of your dreams, would be better off taking the time, effort and bankroll to establish a show in their hometown area. You'd have greater chance of success and support.

Las Vegas has to change. Everyone thinks they can do it better than others. Corporate Vegas should take a page from the old mob's understanding. This town was built on two main components - gambling and top notch entertainment. Food and alcohol will automatically come with it, it shouldn't be a focus.

The move to trendy nightclubs is because of lower entertainment overhead, but is only a trend. The true question is what will happen next? Soon casino properties will realize this revolving door of closing shows is not good for business. In my opinion Vegas has been shuffling for an operational identity since this all began. Remember the move to be a "family" destination? How stupid. The answer is simple, especially in this celebrity-obsessed culture, of going back to understanding the importance and role that "live entertainment shows and name headliners have and bring to this town. The problem here today also is part of the bigger picture of today's recent generations not being raised on live entertainment, but rather electronic entertainment.

Remember when the coveted things was to get to be the opening act for one of these big headlining shows, then eventually getting offered your own show?

In the end all of this amounts to everything being against the performer. Even if you had the money, the point of profitability is way down the road. Another very important point is that it has little or nothing to do with your show. The quality and level of the performer is really not an element in the equation. Today it's all about the business, not the show. So sad.
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Great article.
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Thanks for posting these articles. Very enlightening and some very good advice from Mindpro. It's so disheartening to compare the state of the city with what it once was, even just a few years ago.
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Entertainment is a business and the entertainer should brand themselves as a business.
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Two years ago I was able to have a lengthly chat with a full time performer there. He asked me if I performed for a living, or just part time. I told him part time and told him what my full time job was. He said that if he had to do it all over again, he'd just do it part time and gave many reasons. He said the problem with Vegas was how cut throat it was and the rumours that fly around there were pathetic. (Talking to many different performers at different places on the strip, this turned out to be true, it seemed as tho most hated each other)

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Part time is the life man! Seriously you get to do what you really love, perform I assume, plus none of the stress that goes with the uncertain nature of the business. Often it having to be a business can take from the enjoyment no doubt.

Obviously there are still some of the stresses involved being part time and I do not wish to diminish those. Please do not misunderstand here.
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On 2013-11-17 11:16, Darren James wrote:
Two years ago I was able to have a lengthly chat with a full time performer there. He asked me if I performed for a living, or just part time. I told him part time and told him what my full time job was. He said that if he had to do it all over again, he'd just do it part time and gave many reasons. He said the problem with Vegas was how cut throat it was and the rumours that fly around there were pathetic. (Talking to many different performers at different places on the strip, this turned out to be true, it seemed as tho most hated each other)

Darren


I agree, and always find it funny when members here criticize the Magic Café and it's participants about complaining about the way some are, the things and attitudes offered and the many politics that exist. I always laugh and say you would never cut it as an entertainer here in Las Vegas. This place is child's play. Reality isn't always pretty.
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On 2013-11-17 11:21, Dannydoyle wrote:
Part time is the life man! Seriously you get to do what you really love, perform I assume, plus none of the stress that goes with the uncertain nature of the business. Often it having to be a business can take from the enjoyment no doubt.

Obviously there are still some of the stresses involved being part time and I do not wish to diminish those. Please do not misunderstand here.


As a part-timer I couldn't agree more. My 9-5 feeds my family, pays for my health care and establishes my pension. Performing is pure pleasure; the money is simply a happy by-product.

I admire the full time professionals. But I don't envy them.

John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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