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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts |
And Axe's
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
My neighbor rang my doorbell at 2:30 a.m. this morning, can you believe that, 2:30 a.m.!? Lucky for him I was still up playing my drums. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 15:19, NicholasD wrote: No. It's not. It is, as Slide noted, a dialect, and, in fact, was the common pronunciation of the word in the Middle Ages. (From the Middle English "aksen") The pronunciation is very common among African Americans as is also used in Italian American communities in the northeast. (And by many New Yorkers and New Jersians of all ethnic backgrounds.) The spoken language has always been different than the written one. Those who pronounce the word as "aks" spell it as "ask" nonetheless. In written communication rules and conventions are more important when they serve to facilitate accurate communication. |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 22:59, magicfish wrote: My older daughter pronounces "bagel" as "baggle". When I asked her she said that she wasn't aware that she was doing it, but appeared to be unconcerned. My younger daughter pronounces "beagle" as "bagel". I asked her about it. "It's just cuter," she said.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 23:14, mastermindreader wrote: I suspect a disproportionately high number of people who grow up pronouncing "ask" as "ax" misspell it and have trouble with the letter combination in other words, as well.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 23:26, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: |
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 23:07, Bob1Dog wrote: Just having fun folks; that's why I put it there. Someone in here and I had this discussion a few years back. But I was more focusing on the apostrophe.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
My neighbor rang my doorbell at 2:30 a.m. this morning, can you believe that, 2:30 a.m.!? Lucky for him I was still up playing my drums. |
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Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1538 Posts |
The local classical music station DJ's are forever mispronouncing 'flautist' and 'pianist'... drives me bats.
"All you need is in Fitzkee."
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 15:40, LobowolfXXX wrote: Of course there is sloppy English, but pronunciation is rarely an example. Pronunciation usually shows efficiency. The schwa that Bill complained about is natural, necessary, and acceptable. And if I listened to Bill for about five minutes, I bet that I could point out multiple examples of elision, assimilation, and the use of weak forms. The same goes for you, Lobo. Stop using those things, and you'll start sounding like my German students. Now, if we want to talk about grammar, I start to get picky. One of my own peeves is writing "to" instead of "too". But I did it myself a couple of days ago--in a business email, of all places. But I didn't kill myself over it. OK, maybe some self-flagellation was involved. But I survived. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 23:31, LobowolfXXX wrote: From personal experience with many performers and writers and others who use that pronunciation, I can assure you that most of them spell it correctly. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
Muffin button.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I'm waiting for a train, so I decided to bore (ha!) you with more examples of pronunciation mistakes that aren't mistakes.
MOST Americans, most of the time, say "fur" or "fir" instead of "for". This is simply a weak form, and is acceptable. And we ALL do it, and if we don't we sound weird. Yesterday I was teaching a horrible class. It's to prepare students to take the TOEFL. I hate it. Anyway, I use mock tests, and we were listening to a recording that I've heard a hundred times. But I was bored (ha!), and I started getting annoyed by his accent. I think he was Canadian. (Double ha!). Now remember: this was a professional actor, trying to enunciate professionally. He did everything right--tonic stress, using clear phonemes, avoiding the tell-tale signs of rapid speech (like the stuff I mentioned above: elision, assimilation, etc.). The man repeatedly said, "differnt" instead of different. The first "r" had disappeared. Like in February. How many of you say, "Febuary" instead of "February"? Probably ALL of us, including me. As far as GRAMMAR is concerned, I get concerned. Americans seem to have gone nuts with the "ing". I hate that. Americans seem to intensify things by saying "so" a lot. I hate that. Americans also seem to ignore the present perfect. Instead of saying, "I have eaten", they say, "I ate". The former is clearer. I really only care about clarity. Not rules. |
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Dr. Van Van Mojo Special user 570 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 02:16, magicfish wrote: Quote:
On 2013-11-07 22:59, magicfish wrote: I'm with you on those two. Quote:
On 2013-11-07 23:35, magicfish wrote: You could of axed your family member's to cut it out. Another one to add to the list, "loose" in place of "lose". |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Ever hear this one where folks will take a word that ends in "a" and change it. For example Santa becomes "Santee" or "Santer" I think they do it for effect, but I'm not sure.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
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On 2013-11-08 00:16, Ekuth wrote: My wife is a "flutist", "flautist" being archaic and only used (in the States, at least) by folks trying to sound uppity, or who simply don't know better. We have known or met a lot of professional "flutists", but have never actually met a single "flautist". Now, "piANist" has always sounded wierd to me, but I am from the South, so I have heard it a lot...
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2013-11-08 01:16, stoneunhinged wrote: Then again, you might be surprised. My "February" has two "r"s, and my "comfortable" four syllables (none of which is "ter"). My "again" rhymes with "rain" (which has led to a number of strangers asking if I were "not from around here"). And I generally don't fill dead air time with "uh" or "er" or "y'know". (It is interesting to observe how disquieting some people find that silence.) I do admit having difficulty maintaining three-syllable "Wednesday"s, but I'm working on it. I blame it all on being a mathematician, or an INTP. |
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
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On 2013-11-07 09:26, Russell Davidson wrote: They would be wrong. The British language of the American Revolution was very similar to the way it is still spoken today in America, especially in the South. English pronunciation took an artificial "posh" sound about that time. It is the English who have ruined the language. We still speak it the right way. It is the Brits who have fancied it up and ruined it over the last 200 years. |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2013-11-08 13:43, Pop Haydn wrote: Wow, Pop! If anything could relight that old fire (AR), your words just might do it! Ha-ha!! You didn't just thrown down the gauntlet, you pizzed on it, too. LOL!!
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1538 Posts |
@ClintonMagus: YES! Thank you! My point precisely.
"All you need is in Fitzkee."
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
I am instantly peeved by twerking, which I find to be disgusting, even when attempted by pretty women or Cyrus Miley...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
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On 2013-11-08 13:43, Pop Haydn wrote: simply untrue. With all due respect, Pop, that's like a mexican saying the spaniards butchered spanish. Or a brazilian saying the portugese ruined portugese. it just isn't so. But I think you know that. |
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