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Balaram Special user 904 Posts |
Phew!
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Bill, that is what I thought too, but today I began thinking again. Thinking about those V -shaped cuts in Mary Kelly's face.
There were two of them. People thought they formed a letter such as M or W, or perhaps they implied a rank as the hash ,marks on a police or military uniform do. The Roman numeral V has significance to a Mason as well. It carries back to the Pythagorean theorm concerning multiples of five. Two V's equal X or ten . X is the symbol of perfection. God Like ) The 'X' also made me think of the crossed bones in the Skull and Bones Order of free masons. They also employ the number322 in thir insignia. That nemger references the Bible, Grnisis 3:22. It is interesting that the number 888 is known as the number of Christ. The year 1888 may have been seen as the time for cleaning and reforming the streets of White Chaple of original sin and all that goes with it. Genisis is telling the story of sinners and transformation. Was the killing of the five seen as a way of saving them , or was it something more sinister than that? Kotah |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
That,makes me ... Xzilla!
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Within the Masonic order of The Eastern StarThe Sisters of Secrecy had a list of five womens names which taught lessons.
Among the five were a daughter, a widow, a wife, a sister and a mother. Each was also represented by a color. Within another order, the Rose Cross order of Masons. The colors like the names , in the case of the Canonical five were changed. Electa , yellow was Elizabeth Stride. Martha, blue was Maryann Polly Nichols. Esther, green was Cathrine Eddowes. Electa, red was Annie Chapman. Areme, white was Mary Jane Kelly. She is the rose in the center of the cross. Some crosses have a white rose. White roses and others are often left at Mary's grave site to this day. You can Google pics of the Rose Cross symbols to see the color pattern for yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_Cross Kotah |
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1177 Posts |
Patterns Patterns everywhere!
Bob
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
I've possibly saved the best for last; check it out.
H. H. Holme's full mame was, Henry Howard Holmes. Henry H. Holmes = 12 letters In the from hell letter, the writer comments on using his 'trade mame' So if Holmes traded or switched his names around; Howard H. Holmes = 13 letters, just as Jack The Ripper has. The clincher may be the fact that the traded name Henry is a variant of Hank ; which is a diminutive form of John . John also being Jack. Both Jack and Hank having four letters Since it is claimed that the hand writing samples from H.H. Holmes very nearly match that of the Ripper letter. Another clue hidden in plain sight, informing those who might see it that H. H. Holmes was in fact the Ripper. He was in the area and was definitely seen as a suspect. The connection to his name and the chiding comment were never made until now. Kotah |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
Thanks Again,Kotah !
I've thought about how many times,I have seen the white rose in the center of a cross through life! Now,I understand where some of this may have come from...never,thought about it before!
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Zilla - man , the rose is also viewed as a symbol of silence and secrecy.
Mary Kelly threatned to talk / make public her affair and the illigimate son Joe,so she was silenced. Kotah |
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Early roses had only five petals, and legend says the
original color was always white. The ancient Greeks believed that roses turned red when Venus chased after her lover, Adonis, and pricked her finger on a thorny bush in her haste to reach him. Rose is an anagram of Eros. According to Christian documents, the blood of the crucified Christ spilled down onto a white rosebush growing at the foot of the cross and ever afterwards, rose blossoms were red instead of white. The fact that early roses had five petals resonates when one interprets it as a connection to the Canonical five. If the white rose in the cross of the Masonic order represents Mary Kelly, that is a significant connection. Kotah |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Dr Spektor, REDJAC is an anagram of DR. JACE.
Jace means healing. jACE IS A VERSION OF jason, which relates to Jackie. REDJAC can also be seen as RED JACK, An anagram fpr DR JACKE ( Pronounced JAK-EE) When H. H. Holmes mentioned his 'trade' name; H could also meant the name of his trade, his occupation. He was a doctor, Dr. H. H. Holmes. a Dr. of surgery. Surgery a term loosely used, as he began sadistically on animals when he was young. Perhaps that is what he saw these women as, 'animals' rather than human beings? SURGERY DOCTOR = 13 letters. Kotah |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Coolio - now JTR is covered at least to the 24th century
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
--------In Conclusion --------
As I began to get into this sojourn into the Ripper case, my love for anagrams and some of the clues / names they seemed to indicate, had me looking at Walter SIckert as you know. In hind sight, it seems as though his paintings and the clues within their titles may be an exercise in Role play which he adored doing. They may have been a reflection of the guilt by association that he felt for the deaths of the Canonical five, and the attempt on his daughters life as well. In his mind. He in that way was claiming responsibility. "Sickert did this and that , etc. But at the core of it, certain clues brought to light yet other players as well. Symbolism leaning , strongly suggesting Masonic ties. For that reason, if I were a betting man,( which I am ) my money would be on H.H. Holmes. The man whom at first was not even on my radar. Now I view him as the prime suspect, most likely to actually have been Jack T he Ripper. He had killed , dismemembered and eviscerated victims before. Had he actually eaten the kidney as his letter claimed? Had he canabalized before, or was it a sick ruse t o add to the public horror? Holmes was a darkly disturbed individual, so absolutely nothing was beyond the realm of possibility. A serial killer summoned/ inticed to the UK as a Masonic member / savage problem solver. Kotah |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
New show on SyFy,now!
"Killer Contact"...kind of a 'Ghost Hunter',show! And,you guesed it...Jack,tonight !
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
Kotah,you're not done yet!
Give us an anagram for "Leather Apron". This is all just based on the above show,saying Aaron Kosminski is Jack! Was told to the Investigating Team,by Annie,at 'The Princess Alice'! Princess Alice : 13 letters! Also,Kosminski died at CHMH,in 1889! There is also Nathan Kaminski/Kaminsky tied into The "Secret of Jack". Again,this is all based on the above show...It Sucked & Blowed at the same time! lol
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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ko_brian Veteran user 343 Posts |
Very well done Kotah! Im starting to think that you may have little Demons around you that help you on your discoveries on anagrams (maybe in everything else).lol
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Godzilla you're killing me here.
Is there an anagram within Leather Apron? Yes there is; LE RATH APON HER. The Wrath is over her. I seriously doubt either Kosminski or Kaminski were involved. As far as Alice is concerned, the all female group called the Walter Sickert Army of broken toys . has a song called Fingering the Rabbit hole. B ut I Doubt the white rabbit was the killer either. KO, the site link you requested has been sent Kotah |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
Kotah! I knew you could do it,my Friend!
I'm not,worthy!
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Not quite Gracie Slick, but I like it!
A real nice Ripper feel to it; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4ZDEI3p7aA Kotah |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
Quote:
On 2013-12-06 14:22, KOTAH wrote: This has tempted me to buy a game system,so I can play this game!!!
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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