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JeffHall
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Which balls are best to use for Cups and Balls?
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It all depends on what type of routine you use and what type of cups you have. I like to use sponge balls, or those little fuzzy balls you can get at craft stores. Both are easily manipulated, quiet, and inexpensive.
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Tinfoil is good. But I advise you use them when you are sure you're working on a felt-covered table, if not a big enough close up mat.

Tinfoil "talks".

Sponges are easy to manipulate but I wouldn't wanna confuse Cups and Balls with my other separate routine - "Sponge Balls" Smile
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That is really subjective. Balls from computer mice are good if you have cups that use small balls. Silicone balls are also good. Crocheted balls are fine. It's a "whatever floats your boat" kind of thing.
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I still like the ones with tightly knitted sweaters. My favorite color is dirty red with super clean white as a second choice, depending on the venue.

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I forgot to mention the really cool "Monkey's Paw" balls that Jim Riser sells -- I like these a lot -- they won't roll off your table. And I still have several sets of Mike Rogers baseballs that I like to use.
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First, your hand size is important. Some of us cannot palm with out flashing larger 1" balls. Use the largest ball that you can accurately use for the different slights you plan to preform.

Second, Cup size is important. Some cups will not stack well with 3 balls of let's say 1" on the top of a cup. Now decide on which "moves" you plan to use, and if you'r props will allow you to do the sequences.

Find a ball that you can use, and will work with your cups. Once you have the size figured out, now we go on to personal preference.

Before I do so, another consideration is weight. Some people like heavy weight props, others don't. So experiment with different types of balls (and if possible- cups)to see what works best for you.

Getting back on track, here are some ball types: stones, ball bearings, tin foil, cork balls with crocheted sweaters, balls made of string or rope around marbles or stones(example monkey paws), sponge balls, small mice, felt letters of the alphabet, cotton balls, grapes, cherries, nuts, mini base balls (Mike Roger's)etc., etc., etc.

Many items can be used, just find a reason for them. If you do a search on this site you will find various magician's routines and what they use.

Anything will work, just find what you like. Hope this helps in your quest.

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I use Mike Rogers' 1" baseballs. I like them because they do not roll around and the interest the spectaors.
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I am now using 1.5 sets of testicles from a Rhesis Monkey.
Uh, actually that IS WHAT I TELL THE SPECTATORS. Smile
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For years I've enjoyed using like Mike Rogers' mini-baseballs --for the sure grip and for the visual humor that it adds to my routine..ie. Do you like baseball a lot? just a little?...well I just happen to have some little baseballs", etc.

Mini-die are also visual and fun to use, but you need to work at it so that they don't "talk".

In very noisy venues, I have a set of tiny bells (and ear plugs) that does the trick.

I've never used what Pete uses, but would not recommend it if you are doing a fundraiser for Save the Chimps, etc.

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I think Mike Roger's mini baseballs are good. But they bounce too much. Sometimes I just use wet tissue paper to make the balls. It works fine for me. Cheap and impromptu.
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I use bouncy balls that are 1 1/4 inch. They're big but that's the size I need for the street with Pete's gali gali cups.

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I use a wound, wool ball (ala Tommy Wonder's routine). Very tight, soft, and completely silent. I make mine smaller than the ones required for Tommy's, and they are about the same diameter as the crochet balls.

I am currently using hot pink.
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On 2004-01-20 19:09, johnloon wrote:
I think Mike Roger's mini baseballs are good. But they bounce too much. Sometimes I just use wet tissue paper to make the balls. It works fine for me. Cheap and impromptu.


This depends on which set of baseballs you have. Some of them have rubber or silicone balls for a core. They bounce. Others have wooden balls for a core. They don't bounce nearly as much.
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Here's another idea to add to the list.

I purchased a bag of 1 1/4 inch "porcupine" balls form Oriental Trading company for about $4.00 and trimmed them to just under 1 inch.

They are heavier than most knit balls, don't roll as far and are easy to palm.
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Great idea.
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I use red felt balls primarily as I do a renaissance act and I feel the crochet balls look to modern.
I did however find some marvelous crochet balls at a local fabric store that I picked up to play with. They're milliner cheries and are red crochet around fibrefil so they are very compresible. They would be good for a traditional Japanese tea cup and ball routine.
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On 2003-12-26 17:20, Bill Palmer wrote:
I forgot to mention the really cool "Monkey's Paw" balls that Jim Riser sells


Are the monkey's paw balls made using rope?
This brings to mind a knot known as the monkey's fist. With the size and variety of rope available today you can make balls of any size and color. There might be other decorative knots that might work as well. Maybe a Turks head knot.

If anyone has tried using these I would like to know how well they work. I think I will get out my knot books and have a go at it. Then this effect could be classified as a rope trick Smile Although from a routining perspective youu could start out perform a few rope tricks with a chunk of rope that is the same as the knots and then magically transform the rope to the knots and go into your cups and balls routine.
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I think Bill did mean Monkey's Fist. I've playing around with for at least a year now. Charlie Miller mentions them on the Steven's Cups and Balls video.

I've experimented with rope, string, and leather laces. All work well. There is a fair amount of figuring out the relationship between the core, the diameter of the cord, and the number of wraps. (You’re not stuck with just three wraps.)

Check the archives here at the Café for more on the Monkey Fist.
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I also use the Mike Rogers mini-baseballs. I really think that they have a great grip. They are very easy to palm and the stitches keep them from rolling away too far!

I also like the idea that it's something the audience has SEEN before. While a small crochet ball looks neat, it's not familiar. The audience KNOWS, though, what baseballs are and it also leads to interesting patter ideas. Smile
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