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I just orderd this... but I'm confused is this a shipped dvd or a download cause all I recieved was a two performance video.
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I agree that from my experience the deck still being in a messed up state seems to get better reactions - there's much greater surprise for the final revelation. Otherwise it is somewhat anti-climactic.

@Paisa23 - it's a streaming video under your account at D&Ds website.

As far as Blaine's performance, we all know that cuts were involved to make it play better on TV, but I have tried to work out versions of this were no card is taken out of the deck, creating a "thought of" type version of the effect. It's more fiddly, but it does play well.
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If this is based on the Triumph effect, how would you perform it without the spectator choosing a card. He takes the picture before any card was chosen or named. Then he asks the kid if he wants to change it. Maybe the kid was semi in on it. Or maybe I'm just baffled as I should be, not knowing the method
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On 2013-12-21 10:35, TCB wrote:
If this is based on the Triumph effect, how would you perform it without the spectator choosing a card. He takes the picture before any card was chosen or named. Then he asks the kid if he wants to change it. Maybe the kid was semi in on it. Or maybe I'm just baffled as I should be, not knowing the method


Sgtgrey is correct that it is possible to work out a "thought of" card version, which essentially boils down to doing one of many "just think of card" effects that are a f**ce/limited f**ce and using Double Exposure as a revelation tool (with one small change to the process that isn't difficult at all.) It seems like BMWGuy also has figured out a working as well. While not shown/discussed on the download, it's not impossible by any means.

That being noted, I would say without a moment's hesitation that Blaine performed it exactly as provided by Asi, but with different patter. The decision they made to cut in at the middle of the trick is proof enough of that for me. I applaud them for doing it, though, because I've used patter similar to what I expect Blaine used during the selection, and I've flat out heard spectators re-tell the story as "I was thinking of a card, and only the one I was thinking of is backwards!" when showing the photo to friends. If that's how the spectators remember it, then I see no issue in Blaine editing it to provide the same experience to the viewer.

I will flat-out say, however, that spectator can not change their mind post-photo and still have the effect end as intended. This is simply Blaine having the stones to then offer up that the spectator can change and banking on the fact that he won't (which we all have done many, many times). What would he have done if Jayden had changed his card? Left the trick on the editing room floor. Let's not forget that having a pool of hits and misses and being able to cherry pick is fantastic thing, but rarely reflects how your working experience of the effect will go 100% of the time. Not unlike Blaine's Steven Hawking trick from the same special. The moment Hawking named his card, I burst out laughing and said "You lucky ***!"
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This is now my go to handling. Teaching is not great, but if you have any experience with the underlying method, you will be able to pick it quickly. Easy to do and killer reactions and yes, I think showing deck messed up at the end strengthens the effect
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Everything Pasteboard Alchemist said is exactly the same thoughts I've had on the matter. I will add also some other ways to do a "thought of" version, some are more difficult than others.

The first I'll mention is a little coded, but anyone who has James Brown's Professional Opportunist and knows of the effect Cerebro Steal, or any similar effect causing a spectator through pseudo hypnosis to forget a card also knows that you can subconsciously "plant" a card in their mind that they will name at a later point. This isn't 100% though, so you have to have an out just in case, at which point I move into Kosta Kimlat's triumph handling. This definitely can mean a lot of work and it isn't surefire, though.

Another way is to do a riffle peek. Reinforce this with patter about them just "thinking of a card." This both justifies the peek and hopefully alters memories, or at least future storytelling of the trick, to a "thought of" card. What's left to make it work is my own handling, but let's just say it involves reversing the peeked card in the upper half of the deck and either a small setup before the peek or a couple of other moves beforehand. This allows the card and the deck to be in the right position from that point on to work as the rest of the trick (just start with the shuffling). Hopefully that makes sense to those in the know. Smile

I've had some other ideas on it as well, but those seem to be the ones that have worked best for me.
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On the do you want to change your mind? piece Blaine probably said to jaden when the camera wasnt rolling. Hey Im going to ask you if you want to change. This is just for hightened efect and better television. Just stck to your original card.
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I want to watch again carefully, to see if I can pick up at what point, and how he messes the deck back up after the picture
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What are you talking about? There's no need to 'mess the deck back up'. It's already messed up.
Not would there be any need when cameras weren't rolling for David to cue Jaden to not change his mind when asked. That would lessen the impact for Jaden and diminish his reaction. Not necessary at all, and I'm certain he wouldn't have done such a thing.
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TCB doesn't actually have the download, so let's make sure we don't give up the method here.
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True Doc D. I don't have it yet. Money a little tight at Christmas.I am aware of several Triumph variations though. I guess Illucifer is saying the other side is still mixed up, so if that side is exposed the spec sees a mixed up deck. I will definatly purchase this and more Asi Wind effects as soon as I have the funds, as so many of you guys have spoken so highly of him, and his work.
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Just got the download and actually find this quite hard.
Can it be done with only riffle shuffles?
The move is difficult as well.
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Reignofsound it looks better with accurate shuffles, hence the Faros. I find the displacement bridge taught on Oz pealrmans triumph DVD to be easier to pick up than the square up method on the download. This all sound like a lot of work but I think this is an amazing trick so worth it. As described it can also broke down quite easily with a gimmicks deck. An extra deck to carry of course. If is was not travelling I would Skype and show you the shuffle.
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I tried using a Fournier deck from Lee Asher and they spread perfectly. The deck is the deal. An old deck is really hard for the secret move.
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Ima work on it this week.. to the lay this effect is powerful. I did the traditional Triumph last night at a bar and it floored. I wanna see the reactions I get with this.
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Going to persevere with this and get it right.
As mentioned before Asi does show an easier way to do the move at the end of the tutorial.
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Having an issue with PF and the P Move.... BUt then again after all these years it was two moves I never really played with...
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What is the CtoC deck?
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@ Sensio - It is also known as a Triumph Deck, if that helps.
@ Paisa - I'm pretty sure I mentioned it before, but a good TF can substitute for the PF. I use the PF plenty, but I actually prefer the TF for this. Not sure what you mean by the P move - that eludes me at the moment. Maybe a PM and I could help? I've been enjoying performing this effect quite a bit now, so I may be of service.
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I love, love, love that this is impromptu and uses the spectator's phone/camera. This is a blockbuster effect that can be done at a moment's notice. Brilliant.
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