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MagicPresident
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What is your favorite effect(s) and where can I learn them?
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blindbo
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Send $1,000 cash with a self addressed stamped envelope to.... Smile

Recently, there are two. I learned them from Rich Marotta vid Vol 1: Lasso Card Trick and Card in Orange. (A bonus to this vid is his excellent "Mugged" routine)

Both are good for at least 5 minutes each and you will fool the pants off everyone!

Oh, reading the post following mine and the title of your topic, you meant Invisible deck effects....my error, but the two effects I listed are still good!
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Bill Malone's presentation is an absolute killer for stand up. I did it at a comedy club to close my set and received a standing ovation! It's on his On The Loose Volume 3 DvD/VHS. Good luck with the Invisible Deck!
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I use the ID as an out so my presentaion is geared towards that. If I mess up I just say " I always hate using cards so I tend to use this new invisible deck I bought." from there it is a pretty basic routine.
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I never liked asking the spectator directly what card they were thinking of. You get the occasional 'you tell me'. So I generally either have the spectators write down a card or flip over a card in another deck to , as I tell them, make sure they do not change their minds. At that point I do not have to ask them any more questions. When I am ready to reveal the finale I tell them that they had a free choice, I look at their card or what they have written and then go into my invisible deck for the miracle.

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James Fortune
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Stan,
Why do you "mess up"?

a) you shouldn't be performing magic if you believe that you are likely to mess up. Yes, we all mess up occasionally but you shouldn't be going out there thinking you will.

b) The Invisible Deck is too good to waste, sitting in your pocket waiting for the time you mess up. Smile

Park,

Try this:

Give a genuinely invisible deck to a spectator to shuffle, fan cards out in front of them, select one, show it to everyone, put it back reversed in the deck & put cards back in box. (naturally, your back is turned while all this is going on!)(S)he then gives it back to you whereupon it 'appears' in your hand. You place it down and ask a different spectator for the colour - "your choice, red or black". They say red. Now go to another spec and say "hearts or diamonds?" And finally go to another specator and say "what number hearts was it?"

Used like this you get:

a) No "you tell me"s
b) No arguments
c) Usually a number card, which is easier for everyone to see.

You can do this with either the Invisible or Brainwave Deck - I prefer the Brainwave.
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Thanks for the input James!
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One thing I do is hand a card box (empty) to a spectator and tell him to take one card out of it reverse it and put the deck back in the box. I tell them about how every deck of cards has an invisible twin brother, what happens to one deck happens to the other. I then ask them to name their card that they took out.
The only problem with this and the ID in general is that they wont always name the card that they "pulled out".

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James,

I like your presentation. It's nice to have a routine that plays well for one person but which can be adapted to incorporate several. That way each person can experience the magic rather than witness it.

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James Fortune
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Isn't that the ideal, Jake? Our art (craft?) is entertainment. It's important to bring in as many people as possible into your 'world'.

While strolling, I do this with my eyes. As I'm showing a trick I'll catch someone's eyes a bit further away, smile at them and ask them a question relevant to the trick I'm doing "Sir, what colour was that card?" Now, I've brought his group into my group and so on.

Same at a large table. Perform for the whole table, not just a small section of it.

Doc Eason puts it this way "magic should be up and out, not down and in"
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One variation I use is that I just ask the person what their favourite card is, that way I don't get any "you tell me"s.
The only problem is that too many people like the 'ace of spades'.
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On 2003-12-26 10:16, MagicPresident wrote:
What is your favorite effect(s) and where can I learn them?


Get a copy of "Invisible Secrets Revealed" by Eddie Fields.

It costs about $4 US and has lots of routines for the ID.
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On 2003-12-27 15:48, JamesFortune wrote:

a) you shouldn't be performing magic if you believe that you are likely to mess up. Yes, we all mess up occasionally but you shouldn't be going out there thinking you will.


I don't agree. I think having back-ups is important. It increases confidence and reduces chance of failure.

I think a magician should avoid ALL references to an "invisible deck" to the extent possible. We should avoid calling our effect the actual name of the trick. Too many chances to be caught out.

Gianni
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I also use the routine where I tell them to think of a card...then change their mind.. if it is a female there are a number of jokes you can use with that. Have them now concentrate on that second card... after it is revealed emphasize to them that they had to change their mind to make the effect work.

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I read an idea a while back (I think it was on Richard Robinson's site allmagic.com; my apologies for not recollecting better) that was kinda nice.

It involved two decks, one inivisble, one marked.

The magician spreads out the marked cards on a pool table, such that no two cards are overlapping or even touching. The spectator hits a cue ball and lets it bounce around until it comes to rest on or near a card. That card is set aside (and the marking noted). The invisible deck (which has been in full view the entire time) is now opened and one card shown to be turned face down. Of course they match. Of course they worship you now.
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On 2004-01-05 15:03, Gianni wrote:
"...I think a magician should avoid ALL references to an 'invisible deck' to the extent possible. We should avoid calling our effect the actual name of the trick. Too many chances to be caught out...."


For what reasons do you believe that calling the effect by its actual name increases the chances that laymen will figure out the method?
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My opinion is that the Invisible Deck is a presentation which should be retired for a couple of generations. The UltraMental deck (the trick deck used for the ID presentation) is a great tool which only requires that you use a little imagination to make it a real miracle.

I can't tell you the number of times a layman friend has told me that he or she saw a magician and they did this and that and that trick with "the invisible deck". Now when laymen know that a trick or presentation is "standard" it's time to find a new one.

Darwin Ortiz has a great presentation in Darwin Ortiz At The Card Table which will fool magicians and laymen who own and Ultramental deck. And it requires no more sleight of hand than the standard version.

I recommend it to anyone who owns an Ultramental Deck.
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On 2004-01-05 21:45, Jafo wrote:
It involved two decks, one inivisble, one marked.

The magician spreads out the marked cards on a pool table, such that no two cards are overlapping or even touching. The spectator hits a cue ball and lets it bounce around until it comes to rest on or near a card. That card is set aside (and the marking noted). The invisible deck (which has been in full view the entire time) is now opened and one card shown to be turned face down. Of course they match. Of course they worship you now.


That is a routine created by Eddie Fields, and used for many years by Mike Massy in his trick shot shows.
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Just to add my two cents... Johnny Ace Palmer has a nice presentation for the ID on his trilogy video. Sorry, I can't remember which one.
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HI all (1st realy post) what I do with my ID is get another deck and force a card on the spec that way there's on need to ask for their card at all.
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