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I dropped my Tango flipper coin, and the bonding gave out. In the promotional / instructional /tips DVD that comes with Tango coins, they tell how to repair it.
Unfortunately I believe he says something like, "use your favourite adhesive"... so I used crazy glue, for what I thought would be a strong bond. It is strong, but not totally resistant to cracking apart again if dropped. But it has been a total b**ch trying to get the crazy glue residue off! after much attention and scraping with a needle, I'm ready to try again. I have a few theories from this experience:
The bonding adhesive can't be so hard that it will crack if dropped. If it does break, the adhesive should be able to be cleaned fairly easily.

As a result I'm thinking rubber cement might be the way to go? has anyone tried aircraft model cement?

What's the best bonding glue for a Flipper coin or other similarly constructed things?

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Strong double-sided tape.
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DS tape? I never thought of that but I'll give it a shot, thanks!
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Stop dropping it!

As an aside: acetone is the best for cleaning up all things crazy-glue
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On 2013-12-06 23:10, afinemesh wrote:
Stop dropping it! [...]


This!

(and acetone)
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I personnaly use Double stick tape use for holding carpet. You'll find it in hardware store.
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I use Scotch brand permanent double sided tape. I hear good things about carpet tape too.
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On 2013-12-06 23:10, afinemesh wrote:
Stop dropping it! [...]


This!

(and acetone)


Thanks for the back-up, tomsk192
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Is acetone like nail polish remover? I thought it was like rubbing alcohol (which as it turns out, is not very effective)
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Evostick Adhesive Cleaner for removing the residue and then Evostick Impact Adhesive for the repair. Got that from one of the coin masters - Eddie Gibson. Hope it helps.

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Acetone is not "like" nail polish remover, it's the main ingredient in it. You can buy acetone at your local paint or hardware store.

And, acetone is acetone and not like rubbing alcohol which is why rubbing alcohol is not effective.

Lastly, acetone should be used with caution as it's highly flammable and rather toxic.

Rubbing alcohol is used if you have a booboo on yer finger or prior to getting a shot at the doctor! Smile
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Do not use rubber cement, its not strong enough and it leaves a mess when you take it off.

I recommend using some double stick tape. For the best effect, DO NOT use scotch double stick tape (it is too thick). Try to find one of those that require peeling off a layer before using it. Also, you want to cover the entire 'stationary' piece of the flipper with take so you have maximum surface area contact between the shell and that piece. To do this you would need to cover the smaller piece with tape completely, and then trim off the excess tape with scissors or an exacto knife

If you want to stick (haha) with using crazy glue, the best way to remove it is honestly... by using a really fine grain sanding paper/steel wool. Its difficult to remove crazy glue even with acetone (its better for removing tape residue). However, if you have a heat gun, then removing the crazy glue would be a lot easier. Simply apply heat to the parts that have glue on them and they will melt.
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If you want to stick (haha) with using crazy glue, the best way to remove it is honestly... by using a really fine grain sanding paper/steel wool. Its difficult to remove crazy glue even with acetone (its better for removing tape residue).


I use acetone to soften it up, then physically remove the residue. If you can find a small enough craft razor blade and have a steady hand, I have found that if you are able to get underneath the layer of crazy glue that the whole thing (or at least a good portion) comes up pretty easily as it doesn't really bond with the metal. I have also scored the crazy glue residue with the craft razor (after softening it with acetone) and gotten rid of it with a small flathead screwdriver. But your idea of the fine grain steel wool or sanding paper is a good idea also (again, after softening the glue residue up with acetone).
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I know this is a very old post but I was hoping someone could suggest where you can find the non-Scotch very thin double stick tape? Preferable like described where you have to peel off a backing. That will make it much easier to trim perfectly and set up before trying to reassemble.

Thank you in advance for your help!
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I have scotts ds tape on my flipper and it looks fine. For what its worth it a Lassen barber set.
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I have a Tango US Quarter flipper and every time the band break (often) I re did it with super glue. Just a dab, it holds fine and I have never - not been able to clean off the old with an exacto knife. (due to it just being a dab)

For what it's worth, get a "NGF" next generation flipper from Mark Mason (or the flipper Joe Mogar sells) and don't worry about repairs again. You have to try really hard to break one of these babies.
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I just used a pair of hemostats to hold the scotch DS tape while I trimmed it. A quick search looks like they are easily found at Wal-Mart. A really small pair of needle nose pliers would work too. This also insures that you don't get any skin oil on the tape. It doesn't have to be perfect. Just big enough with no overlaps will work fine.
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I know this is a very old post but I was hoping someone could suggest where you can find the non-Scotch very thin double stick tape? Preferable like described where you have to peel off a backing. That will make it much easier to trim perfectly and set up before trying to reassemble.

Thank you in advance for your help!


Try carpet tape. I got some at Ace Hardware that worked well and is a bit thinner than the Scotch brand of (permanent) double sided tape.

For trimming, I apply the tape to the flipper piece and then use an Xacto knife to trim just _inside_ the borders. You don't touch the sticky part that way, and it ensures there's no excess along the edges that keeps it from fitting flush inside the main flipper body.

While you've got your flipper apart, do yourself a favor and replace the rubber band with elastic cord. It may well be the last time you need to open it back up.
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I have a Tango US Quarter flipper and every time the band break (often) I re did it with super glue. Just a dab, it holds fine and I have never - not been able to clean off the old with an exacto knife. (due to it just being a dab)

For what it's worth, get a "NGF" next generation flipper from Mark Mason (or the flipper Joe Mogar sells) and don't worry about repairs again. You have to try really hard to break one of these babies.


I used to use super glue but it was a real pain. Difficult to get things clean, concern about permanently sealing the flipper closed, or needing to start all over if I didn't get the insert positioned just right. Simply too much trouble for something that would have to be done again before too long.

I haven't yet, but since I've replaced (almost) all my rubber bands with elastic cord, I'm thinking about going back to super glue -- but then I haven't had a reason to take any flippers apart again either. Smile
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