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On 2013-12-13 10:48, RScot wrote:
You guys in the UK get all the cool Magic shows. I never see anything like this here in that states unless it's a random performance on America's Got Talent or something. It is a shame that Penn and Teller Fool Us got cancelled though. That was a lot of fun to watch.


...and you got all the David Copperfield specials that I craved to see when I was growing up, but they only ever showed a few at silly times in the morning and then stopped showing the last few altogether. I had to wait many years for the internet to catch up to finally see them all.

You also don't have the Hypnotism Act of 1952 getting in your way and you can do things with fireworks that we banned decades ago.



Yeah I loved those Copperfield specials as a kid. Smile I kind of wish they would put out all the specials on multiple DVDs. I do have the one DVD put out a few years ago, but it feels like a fraction of what I remember as a kid. It would be fun to see some of the other stuff again that I haven't seen in years. I still remember Penn and Tellers cameo with the studio camera on the building. Good times.
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I thought it was great. This is obviously not meant to WOW magicians with any technique, but to make a point about our elders. They are far more interesting and capable than many young people give them credit for. I thought it was pretty hilarious and the last shot was just priceless. ;-)
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Yep I also think it was Great!
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On 2013-12-13 18:41, Chaz93 wrote:
Is there a way to watch this from the US?

Google "public proxy". A proxy relays information. If you choose one in the UK, the media server thinks you're also in the UK, so you can watch the show.
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Derren has become the trainspotters hero. You need to be wearing an anorak and have cello-taped glasses to watch this drivel. Its all Soooooooooooooo tired now even his hair jumped ship.

He should've quit while he was ahead but I guess he is still getting rich.....er. I couldn't watch beyond the opening scene. His new stuff is just pure garbage. Most lay people I know think he is boring as hell.

There must be enough silly people out there to watch it though...thats most amazing thing about Derren these days. Is that he is getting away with this crap.
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On 2013-12-13 15:57, Chaz93 wrote:
I really wish Derren would go back to reading minds. He was good at that. I have been losing interest though as he moves more to the self styled guru.


what he says,
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On 2013-12-15 10:19, mindpunisher wrote:
Derren has become the trainspotters hero. You need to be wearing an anorak and have cello-taped glasses to watch this drivel. Its all Soooooooooooooo tired now even his hair jumped ship.

He should've quit while he was ahead but I guess he is still getting rich.....er. I couldn't watch beyond the opening scene. His new stuff is just pure garbage. Most lay people I know think he is boring as hell.

There must be enough silly people out there to watch it though...thats most amazing thing about Derren these days. Is that he is getting away with this dog ****


I watched the special and thought it was absolutely brilliant. But, then again, I am a silly person who watches dog ****. You are entitled to your opinions, but it would be nice if you stated them like opinions and not facts. Also, stop insulting others who liked it. That is all.
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Well. I liked it took too, and have no reason to jump on the "chic grain" of people straining to pass themselves off as aesthetically superior.

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On 2013-12-15 15:27, George Hunter wrote:
....and have no reason to jump on the "chic grain" of people straining to pass themselves off as aesthetically superior.


Which is a beautifully backhanded way of taking a position of both intellectual and moral superiority to the previous two posts at the same time.

Well done, sir haha
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I also enjoyed it. I thought it was great fun.
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I agree. It was a good show.
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Sorry, that was supposed to read "chic train," and I have no idea where the word "took" came from.

MM: You may of course, be right; I have that streak in my personality, but I usually face down that rinky-dink demon.

But saying one enjoyed something, vis a vis people who profuse that they did not, is not necessarily a claim to superiority.

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Very true -- Either way, I appreciated the humor Smile
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On 2013-12-15 10:19, mindpunisher wrote:
Derren has become the trainspotters hero. You need to be wearing an anorak and have cello-taped glasses to watch this drivel. Its all Soooooooooooooo tired now even his hair jumped ship.

He should've quit while he was ahead but I guess he is still getting rich.....er. I couldn't watch beyond the opening scene. His new stuff is just pure garbage. Most lay people I know think he is boring as hell.

There must be enough silly people out there to watch it though...thats most amazing thing about Derren these days. Is that he is getting away with this dog ****


I watched the special and thought it was absolutely brilliant. But, then again, I am a silly person who watches dog ****. You are entitled to your opinions, but it would be nice if you stated them like opinions and not facts. Also, stop insulting others who liked it. That is all.


It is a fact that the above is my opinion.... and the words are just an expression of how Derren makes me feel they aren't to be taken literally alhough... But how could anyone take the opening seriously? Plus its the same tired plots hes been doing now for a decade. he was a fake mind reader now he is a fake "guru"..Although he was a much better fake mind reader (in my opinion).

I personally would want to watch a real guru. There are plenty of real "guru's" that could make much more interesting tv.

I meant no insults to man or dog.
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I watched it tonight, and I thought it was a bit lack-luster. Some parts were neat, but I wasn't enthralled or amazed as I have been with some of Derrens earlier specials (such as russian roulette). I get the concept, we should acknowledge and respect our elders. I don't think that little lesson made for great tv though. Better than most of the trash on today, but still just eh in my opinion. I probably won't watch it again, unlike some of Derrens earlier work. It seems like he is moving away from being a mind reader, and if he's staying current and trendy and keeping the paychecks coming good for him. I, personally, was bored and think he's a much better mind reader but I guess he feels he has milked that for all it's worth. I don't know, never spoken to the man, so this is just conjecture.

Either way, it was not my favorite bit of tv he's done, though not entirely rubbish. Mediocre in comparison I suppose.
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On 2013-12-16 04:58, Chaz93 wrote:
I, personally, was bored and think he's a much better mind reader but I guess he feels he has milked that for all it's worth. I don't know, never spoken to the man, so this is just conjecture.


I'm with ya on that.

I spent some time thinking about what his career will look like in years to come.

At this point, he's arguably run the gambit of mentalism effects. He spent the first couple years kind of establishing himself and his character and then building on it with the various TV and stage shows. While vaguely admitting to the audience that he'll use a magic or 'showmanship' principle to cheat, he's built his persona on ambiguous psychological principles... as mentalists tend to do.

After the audience has a firm grip on what kinds of effects he can pull off comes an obvious challenge for any mentalist with that kind of exposure -- "What can you do with those skills?"

If mentalists were 'the real deal' and chatting with someone about their skill set, the conversation might go something like this:
Ment. : "I have X-type skills"
Layman: "Oh really? Can I see an example? / prove it"
Ment. : ::insert any mentalism effect, routine, or act::

.....and that's normally where it ends for us. However, if that conversation were to continue, the next logical step would be....

Layman: "Okay, so you have those kinds of skills... what can you do with them? How does that impact your daily life?/ how can you impact others?"

I think we're seeing Derren try to answer those questions.

(Note: This got me thinking about the issues and theory of scaling up mentalism. Not wanting to hijack this thread for that discussion, I started a new one)
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Great show. Truly enjoyed it.
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Just seen it. Thought it was great. Good to see dpb getting an airing too.

Still remains the best, in my humble opinion. Smile
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I enjoyed it immensely. A fun show.
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