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Archbishop Desmond Tutu criticizes Mandela services:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25413501
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I've admired Desmond Tutu since I was a kid.

Always talking sense, and expressing it so beautifully.
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Here's a curious fact for you guys: In the "new" South Africa, a black man can buy as many wives as he can afford. (for example, President Zuma currently has 4 or 5).

But a white South African man can only have one wife. For whites, polygamy is against the law.
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It took some members of my family half a century before they would buy a drink. Just saying.
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Desmond Tutu is the last of his kind... when he is gone, we will be left with only the Zumas and Malemas - money and power hungry scavengers. There is a ray of hope though, among ordinary South Africans, black or white. When Zuma entered the service, he was booed. When FW De Klerk, the last white apartheid president entered, he was cheered loudly (by the mainly black audience). I think this speaks volumes as to the differences between the ordinary citizens, and the plunderers in power.

Arthur... Mr Zuma can knock himself out with all his wives... I certainly just want one, I already have my hands full as it is Smile
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Alexander, I agree ... one is enough! But the situation there certainly doesn't sound like equality.
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alexander_may qoute on Dec 18, 2013 11:31pm

When FW De Klerk, the last white apartheid president entered, he was cheered loudly (by the mainly black audience).

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The same crowd also cheered President Mugbe.

"The Hatred For Mugabe and The Continuous Love For Mandela"

Predictably, Saunders ends his encomium to the party-betraying Mandela, the “good” liberation hero, with a reference to the “bad” southern African liberation hero, Robert Mugabe. “One only needs look north to Zimbabwe to see what usually happens when revolutionaries” fail to follow Mandela’s economically conservative path, writes Saunders.

At one point, Mugabe’s predilection for orthodox fiscal and monetary policy was as strong as Mandela’s. Yet after almost a decade-and-a-half of the Western media demonizing Mugabe as an autocratic thug, it’s difficult to remember that he, too, was once the toast of Western capitals.

The West’s love affair with Mugabe came to an abrupt end when he rejected the Washington Consensus and embarked on a fast-track land reform program. Its disdain for him deepened when he launched an indigenization program to place majority control of the country’s mineral resources in the hands of Black Zimbabweans.

Mugabe’s transition from “good” liberation hero to “bad,” from saint to demon, coincided with his transition from “reliable steward” of Zimbabwe’s economy – that is, reliable steward of foreign investor and white colonial settler interests – to promoter of indigenous Black economic interests.

That’s a transition Mandela never made. Had he, the elite of the imperialist world would not now be flocking to South Africa for Saint Mandela’s funeral, overflowing with fulsome eulogies.

http://www.spyghana.com/the-hatred-for-m......mandela/
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"Black South African youth view Robert Mugabe as a hero for not only taking back African land from white farmers, but also for successfully standing up to the most powerful economic forces in the world as they imposed near crippling sanctions in their attempt to destroy Zimbabwe’s economy and force Robert Mugabe and ZANU-PF from power. No surprise then that at the recent memorial service for Nelson Mandela in Johannesburg, he received the loudest cheers and applause, as well as a standing ovation when acknowledged as one of the attending dignitaries."

http://www.spyghana.com/the-hatred-for-m......mandela/
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I don't see what Mugabe and the fact that the crowd cheered for him has to do with the topic here. The OP posted an article about Desmond Tutu complaining that the organizers of the memorial services excluded white Afrikaners from it.

The point I was trying to make, was that ordinary South Africans, black and white, have tried their best to embrace the example of Mandela. The largely black crowd cheered for FW De Klerk, a white Afrikaner, who was an Apartheid president. Mandela himself made a point of it to include Afrikaners, even though he was oppressed by them for 40 years. The movie 'Invictus' is a good portrayal of this.

But the current government and 'leaders' do their best to be exclusive - the exact opposite of what Mandela was. That is the problem Tutu has.
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Power corrupts- many leaders who show great promise and probably intend to do better, become greedy uncaring ***s once they reach the top. Mandela was one of the few exceptions.
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