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I am so enjoying this creation. I haven't begun to do a performance piece and I love steam punk.
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All along I had wanted to have as intricate a design as it has evolved. The idea for this came to me when I was using a needle-balloon wand and when I looked at the silver tip on that, the tube fit it exactly. That in itself prompted a transition of sorts, by somehow tying in that wand and the needle. There was no way to get the components out in view from there, and the current wand came to mind. I am still looking for more applications for the magnets "force within" aspect. It is rather stealth as it sits yet integral to the construction and performance.
The extra strong and rather large rare earth magnet in each end has not seen its potential. Years ago, I used to make flash pots with reed switches for the ignition. Merely placing a magnet wand within inches of the reed would set off the pot I had embedded in a plaster skull.
However, I do not want to stray too far from the use of ball and tube.
The Café forum has been useful with feedback and encouragement.
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My wand maker is making me a Burmese Rosewood wand, which could evoke a medieval theme.
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Another wand color
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It keeps getting better. The colors are endless.
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One of the cool things is that if the tips get damaged or lost, they can be replaced inexpensively.
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This one's definitely more my style. Fantastic.
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The concept works. The colors are endless. The exotic woods are a little rich for my blood, but the deluxe wands have been well received.
Jeff McBride e-mailed me.
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Hi Ian
good to hear that you are creating beautiful magic.
I want one that is a lighter color wood..not black, not blue, reddish or brown is fine.

I also have been talking about you at my events.."

"Ian is a man who keeps refining his ideas. He has been developing his work on the ball and tube for 30 years! Ian is an example to all of us to "keep the heat on" our creative projects! Ian reminds us that even the best can be made better"
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I know Jeff since he was 14 years old.
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How do the wands hold up doing single and multiple wand spins?
Are the magnets strong enough to hold onto the balls?
Looking real nice with the wood.
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On 2013-06-08 01:32, Tree wrote:
How do the wands hold up doing single and multiple wand spins?
Are the magnets strong enough to hold onto the balls?
Looking real nice with the wood.

The wand is "whirl" tested. I raised my arm like throwing a baseball and threw my arm forward without the ball releasing. A simple drummers spin won't budge it either. You may have to get used to the wand thickness, length, and weight. Right now, the solid wand is 12" long x 5/8".
I can make the solid wands longer, as it is made of a standard dowel. The deluxe wands are 11.25" x 5/8" due to the intricacy of using exotic wood and lathe capability. My wand spinner cannot use pieces longer than 5.25". The deluxe wands are heavier. I can put a second spacer and add length to the wand if you require a 15" or 18" wand.

I chose the 10mm x 10mm magnets in the wand as anything less WILL release the ball from the tip, also one of the effects with a shim coin requires strength and a smaller magnet or stack of magnets will not grab the shim as the magnet has to travel thru the ball when it works.
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Hello to all! As you may know, Magic Ian left us on the fourth of July...a great loss to us all. His fertile mind lead to this, his last project here with us. I was honored to be asked to be a part of it...The Steel Ball & Tube Wand. We were holding off until after Ian recovered from his hospital stay, which, unfortunately for all of us, was not to be. However, carry on we shall. Ian's family and I are working together to make these available to the magic fraternity. Here is a link to photos of those that have been made for those who may be interested in viewing. Other views and wands can be opened under the main photo. Hopefully, this will be but one of the many magical accomplishments that will keep his name alive in the world of magic.

http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s483......1a6f.jpg

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Here is the link I meant to use, as, all three wands with different views can be seen. I'm afraid I'll never be "computer savvy"!

http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/moonli......%20Wands

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Here are the references that I know of (I could not find the Ken Brooke reference mentionned by Pete Biro, not the Al Cohen one)

Bibliography
Artell, Count: MUM Vol 65 #9 (Society of American Magicians) Count Artell’s Steel Ball and Tube Routine.

Blackstone, Harry: Secrets of magic (1929 George Sully & Co)

Braco's Floating Ball/booklet. This ball really floats! Braco's Floating Ball surpasses any other floating ball effect in many ways. Just imagine this effect: The performer opens a chest and removes a large, gleaming silver ball. He takes his hands off the ball, yet it remains mysteriously suspended in mid-air! The performer may even walk completely away from the ball while it floats!

Buffum, Richard: The Brema Brasses. Abracadabra Press. Balboa Island. California.

Brooke, Ken:

Cohen, Al:

Ellis, Jardine: Jardine Ellis tube routine: effect of tube on magic wand in Magic Ian’s book

Fromer, Roy: Magic with a steel ball and tube; Magic Ian’s book [Ian Sutz]: p 19 Grasp the situation is a challenge for the spectator to grasp the ball on top of the tube; p 20 Vanishing Thimble Move; p 21 Chrome Tube from 1$00 Bill p 25 Travelling tissues thanks to loose paper bands covering bands of contrasting colors; p 26 The Silver Silk Tube supplies the illusion of magically tying silks; Grandmother’s necklace is the old effect with two strings

Gibson, Walter: 400 tricks you can do -1926. According to Magic Ian Walter Gibson suggested to use glass tubes (great and simple idea but apparently they had a problem at close quarter: let’s try a mix of inner plastic and outer glass). Also Walter Gibson, using a inner black colored outer tube created the optical illusion of the ball getting smaller and smaller. Walter Gibson also presents ideas for either a threaded ball or a threaded tube.

Grant, Ulysses F. 25 Tricks & Ideas part 2 © 1931 by U. F. Grant, Trick 5 p 14 a new way of getting rid of the large tube. After causing the ball to sink into the tube and squeezing it out several times, claim that you will allow anyone to push it in the tube. Throw a silk over the ball and tube, then have a person push the ball down into the tube from outside the silk, then reach under the silk and slip the outside tube off letting it fall down your sleeve. Then remove the silk, showing the ball back on top of the tube. Pass it around for examination as you bring your arm down and let gravity deliver the larger tube into your hand.

Green, Paul: Field Sobriety Test

Hilford, Docc. The Ball & tube book. A handling of the classic Ball & Tube trick that will leave spectators gasping. In this routine, we are able to: change a steel ball bearing into a crystal ball without any switches, make the ball shrink without falling through the tube (and without using the gimmick) and the effect will even happen under close observation and in the spectator's own hands. A truly magical effect, and that’s not even the best part. After we have demonstrated the antics of the ball & tube, our audience will be in a mild form of suspension of disbelief, making them ready accept to such suggestions as: "you will be able to feel the coin leave your hand," "you will actually see the card change before your eyes," etc., and the amazing thing is that they will experience what you're simply suggesting.

Kardyro, Tony: Close Up Deceptions ©1972 Tony Kardyro and the Royal House of Magic; p 11 T.K.'s Ball and Tube Routine: uses an extra larger steel ball as well. Includes an alternate ending; p 12 T.K.'s Ball and Tubes Routine: The steel ball is put in the pocket but keeps returning to the top of the tube, then finally turns into a jumbo steel ball & Kardyro's Kolossal Kompendium of Klever and Kommercial Klose-Up The "K" Book of Magic ©1981 by Abbot Magic Co. p 19 T.K.'s Ball & Tube Routine: an application for the Steel Ball and Tube trick, uses an extra steel ball that won't fit into either tube. With alternate ending; p 19 T.K.'s Ball & Tubes Routine: another Steel Ball and Tube trick. Also uses the larger steel ball.

Kennedy, John. Chrome fusion. Marketed effect and prop. The Magician displays a metal tube and a solid steel ball. Suddenly, strange things begin to happen... The ball disappears from his hand and reappears back on top of the tube. It slowly sinks into the tube and rises back out. "Watch this..." he says as he slowly squeezes the ball and tube in his fist "...They have become solid!" He hands out the ball and tube, which have magically transformed into a single, solid object. It is possible to perform John Kennedy's routine while standing inches from the audience. The handling is not difficult to learn, and at the end it’s reset and ready to perform again. Sold with everything needed to perform the effect flawlessly, steel ball, metal tube, and the solid gimmick that looks like a ball on top of a tube.

Larsen, William (editor) Genii April 1973

Magic Ian [Ian Sutz]. Magic with a steel ball and tube "by Magic-Ian". 1996, ©1982 Ian Sutz, D. Robbins & Co., Inc. 28 pages. The classic trick allows to place a ball on the edge of a tube and, on command, allow the ball to lower and rise into the tube. Then pass the apparatus for examination. Originally known "hypnoball" used by mentalists and hypnotists, this is a versatile and well-made prop. The book allows you to produce a coin, sponge, fire or liquid from the tube. Produce several balls from the tube then vanish them back, hand out a solid tube as a finale…plus a no gimmick ball and tube routine guaranteed to baffle the "in-the-know." Well produced with "workable" effects to enhance the basic trick. The Steel Ball and Tube Illusion (Hypno Ball): A more thorough explanation of a simple routine using brass tube and steel ball (the steel overpowers the brass); p 2 Thumb-Palm Steal; p 3 E-Z Steal: reprint of EZ Magic instruction sheet, originally from "Sherm's" magic set; p 4 Mike Tannen Steal. Provides outer plus ball to spectator; Walter B. Gibson's "Get A Way". Needs table; p 5 The Heat of Your Hand. As spectator heats the ball, it now fits inside the steel tube that it didn't before.; p 6 Squeeze Play "The Reputation Maker": Impromptu method, no steal required; p 7 Chop Cup: Use tube as chop cup with M&M final load; p 8 False Take Off: Ball is taken off tube (actually dropped inside); The Mysterious Ball Bearing Trick: Advertisement from 1929 Johnson Smith Catalog for Brema Tubes; p 9 Drumhead Tube: Using as a drumhead tube; p 10 Magic Tube: Place silk in tube, wrap in paper, silk vanishes; No. 145 Ball In Tube: Advertisement from Louis Tannen, Inc. 1940's; p 11 Dye Tube Vanisher: Silk vanishes from tube; p 12 Dye Tube (Standard): Silk Color Change; Mystery of the Ball and Tube: Ad from Neson Enterprises, 1935; p 13 Multiplying Ball: Use two sets, ball can be removed and reappears; The Ball of Mystery: Ad from GAmages of Holburn, 1930's; p 14 Multiplying Ball Outdone (A touch of Mint): idea for a "coin in bottle"; Flosso Hornman Magic ad, 1981; p 15 Three Balls in a Tube: use Vernon's three cotton balls move; p 16 Diminishing Ball: application of Thurston's "400 Tricks You can do" idea; p 17 Tube on String, Tube on Wand (Jardine Ellis Suggestion); p 18 Ball and Tube Vanish: Idea for using a "pull"; Vanishing a Dollar or Cigarette: more pulls; p 19 Rising Tube on Pencil; Grasp the Situation by Roy Fromer: Have spec try to remove partially lowered ball. He can't, you can; p 20 Vanishing Thimble Move by Roy Fromer: Ideas for thimble moves; Abbott's Magic Ad; p 21 Chrome Tube from $1.00 bill by Roy Fromer: Dollar is rolled into a cylinder and a tube is found inside; p 22 The Ball Tube (based on an idea by Walter Gibson): Method to eliminate inner tube; Fingertip Presentation of the Ball Tube: As above, but both tubes used; p 23 Improved Ball and Tube by Gibson: another "pull" idea; Ball and Glass Tube by Gibson: Use glass tubes, needs a little distance; p 24 Severtsen's Subtle Switch: When handed out, the ball is welded to the tube; Test Tube Baby (Arty Seversten idea): ideas for explaining why the ball lowers and raises; p 25 Traveling Tissues by Roy Fromer, described by Walter Gibson. Red banded tube gets green silk, green banded tube gets red silk, They change places.; p 26 The Silver Silk Tube by Roy Fromer. Silks blown through tube come out knotted; Grandmother's Necklaceby Roy Fromer: Grandmother's necklace with two shoestrings; p 27 Magnetic Tubes: Tubes adhere to each other; p 28 Loads of Fun: discussion of various loads

Olson, Bob: Silk Sorcery 1982 Magic Inc. Includes a routine with the steel ball and tube.

Rindfleisch, Joe: Apocalypse 16-20 © by Harry Lorayne p 2500 Modernized steel ball and tube

Robinson, James G. Buoyant Ball Bearing The magician displays a large, heavy, ball bearing, which he immediately floats in a glass of water. Spectators may examine it before and after, and they may even try to float it themselves to no avail. You and only you control the buoyant ball bearing

Satchell, William: Ireland Yearbook 1950 © 1950 by Ireland Magic Company, Chicago p 32 William Satchell’s Ball and tube is mad of half a 46 ounce tomato can that has a vertical cut with a hook on one side and a hole on the other. Initially the tube is hooked reducing its circumference but then pressing with the hand, the hook is released and the ball can slide down the tube.
Severtsen, Arty: Magic with a steel ball and tube by Magic Ian [Ian Sutz]; p 24 Subtle Switch. The inner tube is switched for one with a ball stuck on its top. The idea is the basis for John Kennedy’s routine.

Thurston, Howard: 400 tricks you can do (1926: George Sully & Co)

Rindfleisch, Joe: Apocalypse 16-20 by Harry Lorane; p 2500 Modernized steel ball and tube;
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I still could not find a way to relate the props to the spectators and therefore a dramatization aiming at an emotional plot linked to the object itself. So I could not sofar script a proper routine for myself

However I had found some effects (not all original) to take the effect from the puzzle type (even with the docc Hilford hallucination approach) to a really "magical routine"
So if anyone wants to take advantage of my 'incomplete' notes on the effect and find what I did not here they are:

Effects
Magical production of the tube from a $ bill rolled into a cone
Show the two props cleanly (metal or glass tube with perpex insert or smaller glass tube)
Letting the ball fall through the tube
Size of the ball increases or decreases (two balls of different sizes)
Vanish of the ball with or without reappearance of the ball in the tube (hold out if complete vanish)
Ball sinks in the tube
Ball comes back up
Rising tube on a pencil or a wand
Tube on a pencil (ring on stick Jardine Ellis’ style)
Ball is pocketed and comes back
Multiplying ball (two balls in the double tube or several balls palmed in the hand)
Three balls vanish in the tube
Two coins are used to press the ball into a coin and back
Optical illusion painting the inside of the outer tube in black
Ball to peanut or M&M or green pea
Tube on pencil or on shoelace or on wand
Ball glued on top of the inner tube
Ball to coin (Han Ping Chien?)

Technique
Shuttle pass (switch of tubes or switch of balls) possibly making a lapping shuttle pass with Slydini’s Revolving vanish.
Shuttle pass of the ball (keeping the ball into the tube)
Change over palm (demonstrating the hands not to contain anything else)
Lapping one of the tubes
Imp Pass with one of the tubes.
Thumb palming of the tube
Sliding down of the inner tube
Han Ping Chien with the stuck ball dropping a coin and immediately getting the outer tube before lapping the gimmick.
Squeeze play: squeezing the very bottom of the outer tube makes an oval on top and when released the ball fall through.
Ball in J.W. Grip as the tube is held between the middle finger and thumb: this can be used for convincing that the ball is in the tube when the tube is actually empty, or for pressing down the ball on the tube (with another ball palmed) to show that it cannot get in.
Loading the inner tube
Turning the tube end for end
Switch of tubes (the outer one for the inner one)
Switch of tubes (either one of the outer or inner one for a double one)
Thread from jacket to the inside of the inner tube or (without the inner tube) thin thread with a small bead dropped into the inner tube (Walter Gibson)
Thumb stealing of the outer tube
Second ball (check Mike Gallo’s handling of the egg cup)
Pocket the ball securing a second one
Ball affixed to an elastic going through the inner tube and acting as a hold out for both the ball and the inner tube
Tube clipped by the extended fingers and thumb (behind the fingers) inserted in the bottom of the inner tube makes the ball move up or down (Walter Gibson)
Multiplying ball (two balls in the double tube or several balls palmed in the hand)
Three balls vanish in the tube (pop up move)
Ball stuck on top of the inner tube: additional ball brought an shown free as the other ball is sunk in. Then the outer tube is stolen and the slid gimmick is handed out.
Two coins are used to press the ball into a coin and back (Flipper coin)
Optical illusion painting the inside of the outer tube in black
Ball to peanut or M&M or green pea
Tube on pencil or on shoelace or on wand
Put small silk [or a dollar bill] into the double tube and wrap up the tube with a large post it not (letting the inner tube with the silk fall down into the wrapping process) and let the spectator unwrap it discovering the vanish of the silk [or bill]. This can be done without the wrapping and if using a wand, the inner tube can be ditched in the pocket.
The silk effect can be done with a color change (and therefore for a denomination change with a bill) poking a silk on one end and pulling it at the other hand but in a different color then stealing the inner tube to let the outer tube to be free to be shown.
Misdirection
Flashing the other hand empty as often as possible (to prevent the suspicion of a second tube)
Loading the inner tube as the ball is picked up from the table
Loading of the inner tube in the palmed outer tube and drop of the ball into the hand for turning the tube end for end
Justification with the hand movements (drop of the ball into the other hand) for the demonstrative holding of the tube needed for the sinking in.
Letting the spectator hand out his palm up hand as the inner tube with ball is dropped into the left hand for the right (finger palming the outer tube) to take the ball and give it for examination.
Heat of the hand: as sucker explanation as the spectator warms the ball up nest the tubes or simply switch them

Feint
Let the ball drop through the outer tube. Then seem to repeat but keep the ball (either by squeezing or simply by palming) pocket the ball and make it come back.
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This one hurts. I didn't know Ian except for his books, his posts here on the Café, and the short PMs we shared regarding one of the early versions of his new wand. I loved his energy and passion for the craft, and genuine interest in his contributions and how they were received within the magic community.

Your magic will stay with us Ian.
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For those who have asked, and, those who are interested in Magic Ian's Steel Ball & Tube Wand, it looks to be about five more weeks until more stock will be available to continue with production. Ian's family are in the process of, hopefully, condensing his several web sites into a single one, which, will be helpful to all. I will be posting the developments and any pertainent info here: http://moonlightmagic.us/#/ball-tube-wands/4578008615

On behalf of Ian's family, and myself, thanks for the continued support of this project.

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We have a "go-ahead" from Magic Ian's wife, Lyn, to resume production of his unique, Steel Ball & Tube Wands. After three months of back-order time, the supplies are in, but limited. We'll only be able to work on these mostly on weekends, so, the output will take a bit longer. Best to request one early via e-mail or PM, as, we have to concentrate on items for Donnie at RNTII. He's running very low!

Thanks to all who have kept an interest in this item on behalf of Magic Ian and his family. Here again is the link to view the first three made by Moonlight Magic. As a standard, they will be made using the elevated design of Jeff McBride's wand pictured here in the bottom four photos:

http://moonlightmagic.us/#/ball-tube-wands/4578008615

Thanks again and Happy Halloween!

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Lawrence O,

I used to do ball through table. The ball is glued into the inner tube, which is nested in the wider tube. In my right hand I have a second loose ball concealed in fingerpalm. The left hand grasps the tube(s) and inverts it. The right finger tip "holds the ball in place" as the ball is placed on the table top. The right hand goes under the table.

The tube is pressed down, and the ball appears to go through the table. The tube is lifted up, with the ball concealed inside. To the audience, though, the tube is empty. If the tube were wide enough for the ball to go into it, the ball would fall out when the tube is lifted. The left fingers are secretly gripping the top of the inner tube so that it doesn't fall.

The right hand comes up from beneath the table with the ball that has supposedly been pushed through the table top.

Instead of using the tube to create an effect of, "look, I can make the ball shrink into the tube," I prefer to keep this ability a secret.

This means I can "take" the ball (secretly letting it slip down into the outer tube) and vanish it. This false take looks very clean because unlike coin vanishes, for instance, the item being taken isn't in the hand, and seems to be isolated from it.
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Good stuff Darrin.
Curious, what kind of glue did you use? I would think glue gun with some sandpaper prior to rough the surfaces...but maybe your solution is better.
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Wizard of Oz,

From memory, it was super glue. I was gluing a glass marble, though, not a steel ball.
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Does anybody use the ball and tube? Or a ball and tube wand?

I've been getting into this trick lately and really want a wand.

I'm using Ian's book to put together a routine. I think this prop is often overlooked and has lots of potential, not only for magic, but to grow as a magician. If you can make this prop interesting, you can make just about anything interesting. lol

Anywho, I'm working on my routine for the children's hospital walkaround I do. It's 4 phases: the drum head tube with a silk production, the Jardine Ellis effect, the standard ball and tube trick and lastly the silk vanishes when the tube is rolled up into more tissue paper.

Fun trick! I may change things up as I work on this, but I'm really liking all that goes into making this a fun and interesting routine.
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Theodore Lawton, I have one of Magic Ian's basic wands and was actually waiting for another, more elaborate wand. That wand - which I ordered, but payment wasn't due until the wand was finished - unfortunately never happened.

However, I must tell you, I love the wand that I do have, and think it was a great idea to incorporate this relatively simple effect into the disguise of a wand. I have yet to use it in performance, but could easily imagine it. And I also like the idea (that is already out there), of using Glorpy (or similar prop) to capture the mysterious floating ball (the magician would of course vanish or steal the ball, and find it under the handkerchief).

Long story short...you're right. This simple prop is overlooked and does indeed have a lot of potential. I like your idea of coordinating more than one effect, and have thought of this myself...using the ball and tube principal for a "stand" for a Zombie ball. I never built it, but imagine it could work. And the idea of the ball being heavy enough to sink into a metal tube, but light enough to float really intrigued me.
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Any idea as to why the wand never happened?
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Theodore Lawton,
Michael (wandmgc8) just PM'd me. He simply was overwhelmed and didn't get to it. I'm not upset as I never gave him any money, and the "order" was casually discussed but not formally placed.

Michael is a total gentleman and artist. I have no doubt I'll get my wand (actually two now) and they will be stunning! I recommend his work highly. Check out the photos on his site: http://www.moonlightmagic.us
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