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piyuyu Veteran user 308 Posts |
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On 2013-12-28 08:58, Michael Daniels wrote: As an educator who has taken a basic course on counselling, I do concur that during a counselling session, a counselor almost never give advice. He or she spend a lot of time listening and feeding back through rephrasing what the sitter has already mentioned. |
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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1978 Posts |
Just listen, and keep referring back to the cards (or whatever oracle you're using). In other words, never interject your own opinion. That's the key.
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Limitless New user 28 Posts |
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On Feb 17, 2014, piyuyu wrote: Got it in one. There are a lot of very good counselling courses out there that focus on usually one therapy, such as CBT, Transactional Analysis, Non directive, client centred etc. If you want to consider starting I'd recommend Born To Win by Muriel James. If you get on with that take the next step. As a trained counsellor, we never give advice. Best of luck |
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mindpunisher Inner circle 6132 Posts |
I wouldn't let a counselor walk my dog. Generally speaking they prolong and reinforce problems. Plus because they are forced to into counseling themselves they tend to be more screwed up than their clients. Ive worked with therapy clients for more years than I care to remember and a large number of them come to me after years of counseling where problem has just been made worse and in some cases a lot more difficult to resolve.
licensed Charlestons. License to make money from grief. They are about as effective as psychics or maybe not even as. |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
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On Mar 17, 2014, mindpunisher wrote: there's bad "everythings" out there... you could say the same for hypnotists or life-coaches too... there's plenty of qualified, very talented counselors out there... don't paint in such broad brush strokes... or project!
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Stunninger Inner circle 2819 Posts |
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On Dec 27, 2013, mastermindreader wrote: Amen. |
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Stunninger Inner circle 2819 Posts |
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On Mar 17, 2014, IAIN wrote: My experience has been the 80/20 principle applies every bit as much in the field of counseling as any other. There is a relatively small percentage of outstanding counselors with the specialized knowledge, skills and experience to be highly effective in helping others work through whatever life issue is holding them back or causing pain. There certainly are wonderful, well-trained, highly effective counselors out there. But there are also a huge lot of others who hold some type of counselor title (in the States that could be, Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Licensed Psychologist, Psychiatrist, and more) who aren't very talented, capable or effective. But more than happy to take your money each week and encourage you to come back week after week after week. In my opinion, if a person needs the help of a professional counselor, they would be well-advised to a) seek one who is licensed and b) do their research on-line and through word of mouth to find find one who is highly recommended by others. I don't in any way want to disparage the profession of counselors. There are really outstanding counselors out there who have highly specialized training, compassion, empathy and the skills to help others get out of a bad place, help solve life problems, work through issues, and become happier. That said, it absolutely pays to do one's homework first. |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Again, just like all professions...
a builder, you want good references, good portfolio of work and fully registered and qualified... personal experiences aside, I don't think many enter into a profession wanting to scam people as their main raison d'etre...
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Stunninger Inner circle 2819 Posts |
Never suggested the motivation to enter the profession of counseling was to scam people...
My point was and remains the profession of counseling, in all it's manifestations, is filled with people who are not particularly capable or competent. When a person is struggling, going through a difficult time, and in need of help, they are particularly vulnerable. In that vulnerable place, checking references and doing research to find an exceptionally good, highly capable counselor, is not likely to be foremost on a person's mind. It may not seem obvious or necessary. Which is why I made the point. Perhaps slightly more important than choosing a builder... |
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