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wizardpa
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I guess I have about 120 hours of work on this and about $400 of materials. It has inside mounted roller blinds.

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Very Nice job!
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Well done!! I especially like how the "figure" is painted on the side. Nice touch.
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Nicely done!
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Thanks! I wanted to do something, that I'm not sure has ever been done before. That is why I even did a figure on the back. As I turn the Zig Zag around, I want the audience to wonder even further where is the middle of my assistant.
I used several different plans for ideas, but mostly the Paul Osborn plans, and then my own ideas.
I also want to thank illusionman2, for his help on the belly door and how to make the blinds, so that they will wind back automatically.
By the way, the illusion works with my assistant. I also have an unique way I want to do my illusion.
Watching videos of the Zig Zag, I'm shocked that a lot of magicians do not get as much out of this fantastic illusion as they should.
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Super job!! Great job on the coice of colors as well.
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Chris, I'm impressed! That is well done and as already mentioned, the figure on the side is a great touch!
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Hi there,

A couple of comments...

I too like the figures of the person on the sides and the back, however that being said, one of Harbin's deceptive features for the Zig-zag was that his sides were painted a dark colour, or black, making the post and the side on the right appear flat or thinner than it actually was when viewed from a slight angle to the right side, or on a stage with dark curtains.

By making the sides a lighter colour you actually increase the (look of) thickness when viewed from any where off to the right of center.

Check out some of the on-line videos and you will see what I mean. Here is one of Lee Edwards performing his.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cH2W1Prhqg

I choose this one as the center is highlighted against a bright background, you will see how the right side thickness of the center "disappears" as it is turned around. Now imagine that on a darker stage, or against a dark backdrop.

But really nice building job, the finish and painting looks great! Congrats.

Blair
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I should have mentioned the turn is around the 1:50 mark onward, if you don't want to watch the whole video. There are some of Harbin performing it on-line but the ones I've watched do not highlight my point as well as the video of Lee.

Blair
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An additioanl note is that Harbin even went to the point of painting behind the center slide black, like the uprights, so that when the center was pulled over, and the front slide was pulled also, that it was black that showed between the two uprights, not the colour of the front doors.

Blair
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Hi Blair,
I really appreciate your response. As I tested mine with my assistant before painting I was shocked. Where was her Middle? I'm not sure what the audience will think when I do mine, but I love mine, and my intention with the figure on the side, and back, is to make the audience see the room my assistant takes up inside the box, and wonder even more where is she?
Chris
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Hey Chris,

I've used the illusion extensively in shopping malls, and it IS an amazing illusion. I've even used it in the center of a magic themed restaurant where it was done amongst the tables and close-up. We used customers to hold the blades sitting at the tables before they were used for the dividing. The surprise on the folks faces, especially those that were facing each other, when the center was pushed to the side, was great, and got a real laugh from everyone else from seeing their reactions.

Do I like the illusion, yes, and have performed it hundreds of times (I have 2).

Have fun with it!

Blair
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Very nice job and the graphics are superior thinking.

That is just the point, I like the creative figure on the side a lot, but - I believe it should have been larger filling most of the area. This way it is not, it looks like a lot of room available for the person. Yes, I believe the audience will relate the drawing to the person inside. Just my opinion of course.
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Hey Bill, my original design for the side figure was bigger but I felt my assistant would get offended thinking I thought she was fat.

Blair, It has always been one of my favorite illusions. I do not do a lot of stage type shows though, but I want it for the 5+ shows a year that I do do. Most of my shows are for children around 8 years old. I'm shocked how poorly some magicians use it correctly. One, does not turn it around, another does not use the belly door, another puts the blades in AFTER he slid the middle box over to the left.

I thank Hardin for this classic illusion. It will go great with my Temple of Benares.

I also enjoyed building it. I wonder what will I build next.
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Great job with all of it. The paint job is great and the image on the side is great. It was my very first illusion I put in my act back in the late 70's. I have always loved this illusion and have wanted to get another one and perform it the way Harbin did. Thanks for posting.

Steven
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Very nice, great job. These things are a booger to build, I applaud you!
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Extremely nice! Smile
His face isn't really this long in-person!
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Looks really nice...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
wizardpa
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I really appreciate the great comments. As I got further and further along in the building of my Zig Zag, I kept coming up with ideas to enhance the looks of it, like putting the metal trim on the base and the top and bottom boxes.
Then I decided to put the silhouettes on the side and back as well. I hope that mine looks unique, unlike no other. But the funny thing about me, is that if someone wants to copy my idea, feel free to copy.
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Harbin was a Genius and like the saying goes "Perfection Is Hard To Improve"

Some details are important to create a deceptive Zig Zag illusion, like:
A sliding panel
The sides of the box should be black. (this adds to the deceptiveness when the box is in zig zag position)
The upright metal trim should only be on one side (not on the moving box part), the other side should be black otherwise the box looks too big and people can see where the box ends when pulled out, increase it's thickness

Check out Harbins Original version or Copperfields version and see how well it looks with these features
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