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Zephury
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I've been in to magic on and off as a kid since the age of 5 or 6. In the past 6 or so months, I've gotten back in to it heavily. All of the books and props are starting to get quite expensive and I need to find a way to start paying for all of it! I'm 16 years old with a High school diploma and I've got to wait til the Fall of this year until I go back to college. I've decided that I'm going to push myself to get some restaurant gigs and possibly look in to stage work.

I'm not very stumped as far as what I have to do for restaurant gigs. I've already got my foot in door at a couple of restaurants and a catering company. The connections are through relatives and close friends.. If I can get an "act" together, I've got the booking already done on that part.

The main thing with me is the stage sorts of things and "big illusions." Is this something I should give more time on since I don't have much experience with any venues of performing? I've got ideas for illusions and props stuck in my head that are driving me absolutely nuts-- I'd love to have a reason to build them.

A lot of the illusions stuck in my head require an assistant. How on earth is a magician that has yet to perform a single show? Any ideas on what I have to do before getting one or ideas/places to look for one? Kinda thought of posting something on craigslist, aha! Pretty sticky situation though.

I'm also concerned on where I would be practicing. My house is like an absolute hoarders house... My family is full of pigs, aha. Can't wait to own a clean home one day. Are there places where you can "borrow" or rent stages during off hours for practice? Seems pretty tough because I wouldn't be making any money from practicing on a stage.. No way to make back what money I'd invest for stage time.

Anyone wanna give me any stories on how you found your first "gig" or stage to practice on?

Also wondering about "stage rights.."

I can perform Ricky Jay's A through King of Spades "Card Manipulation" almost precisely how he performs it. If I were to do that, could I get in trouble? I've put a lot of time in to practicing it.. Is it dead time when it comes towards performing it? What is the percentage of originality you have to have in order to make it able to "perform without permission." Any insight would be appreciated.

How deep does performance rights go? If you buy a trick; like hopping halves or Scotch and Soda online, can you perform them in a parlor or stage act? How does it all work?

Thanks for reading!
C_Biskit
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I have never done a stage show/performance so this is just speculation. But I don't think that you would NEED an assistant to do a stage show. Wayne Houchin does his Single Needle on stage and that is by far a big stage illusion. Piff the Magical Dragon also does solo stage stuff. There are a lot of big names and people that are famous that don't. If you have a friend whom is talented you could use her. Obviously, documenting your ideas is a good idea and you can start doing stage shows that do not require big props that you can't get your hands on yet. You could always use your gym at school if you talked to the principle or something like that maybe to practice?

No your time spent is not wasted.
As far rights work I am not 100% sure.

My understanding is that since you bought the trick you now can perform it or if you learned it from a book in a library. There has been some debate over ethics on this subject so it is kind of a grey area. The BIG thing is that you do not try and pass these tricks off as your own! You seem like a bright kid, but give credit where it is necessary. You don't need to tell everyone at the beginning of your show but if someone asks you for sure.
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I have been really staring magic around one year ago and from what I know (Helped on my school's Magic Club's Show) that a grand illusion cost you thousands (One of my seniors did the Assistant revenge ad that costed a few grand) even the floating table and violin costed my club president a few fundred each in return of around 10 second of performance (Of couse he floated more than once!)
My point is, illusions are a no go. Especially one that requires an assistant) Instead go for a close up routine that can be modified as a parlor act (Things like the Professor's Nightmare and Cups and balls come to mind, so does other routines that has a prediction somewhere. )

Stage rights? None as I heard of, but obviously don't say somethng like "Hello everyone, now I will perform something I came up with totally on my one originally".

Since you said you're working at restaurants and catering company, why not focus on table hopping instead? It would allow you to do a lot more stuff and interact with your audience more.
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