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CTerence
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All magic, done right can suspend belief for a bit, and help someone cheer up a bit. But, I need suggestions for a more specific trick(s)/approach meant for cheering up someone kinda despondent.
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What age is the person?
CTerence
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She's a senior in high school.
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Sponge bunnies. Always fun, always brings a laugh. If not that, then anything in her hands.

Hudson
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On 2014-01-13 02:01, CTerence wrote:
All magic, done right can suspend belief for a bit, and help someone cheer up a bit. But, I need suggestions for a more specific trick(s)/approach meant for cheering up someone kinda despondent.


Magic cannot suspend DISbelief!!!!! Only the spectator can suspend disbelief.

If a magic effect is properly performed, with good presentation, Magic may happen. --But, it happens only in the spectator's mind.

There AINT NO specific trick, or approach that can cure depression. Unless you are a doctor specializing in mental depression, I would urge you to be very careful.
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MAGIC CANNOT SUSPEND D I S BELIEF!

Only the SPECTATOR can suspend DISbelief.

When s magical effect (what the audience 'sees') is well performed and properly presented, magic may happen (but, only in the spectators mind--and then, only briefly.

Unless you are a doctor specializing in mental depression, BE VERY CAREFUL!
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MAGIC CANNOT SUSPEND D I S BELIEF!

That is a double negative, so you are agreeing with him in saying that 'magic cannot suspend disbelief'.
"Ain't no" is also a double negative.

I like the sponge bunnies idea. Also, anything that is silly to make her laugh would be good. Since laughter and happiness are a great way to help negative moods and also a great way to cure disease. Looking at comedy magicians would be a good place to start, you could always present it in the idea that she is the magical one and you don't know how it works. I am not sure of the trick name but a simple, self-working 4x4 card trick where she is picking the piles would be fun. PM if you want to discuss that one a little or if you have questions.
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Dear C_Biskit: (May I assume that that is the "new way" to spell Sea Biscuit"?

First, thank you for the "lesson" in English grammar.

I hasten to assure you that I am well able to express myself. I used "aknt no" to make a point. I repeat: MAGIC CANNOT SUSPEND DISBELIEF. Read his first sentence! ("All magic, done right can suspend BELIEF for a bit, ..."

Only the spectator can suspend DISBELIEF! I'm sure the OP has the best of intentions, but he doesn't express "technical talk" too well.

High Schools, today, have serious problems with student depression. How often have we heard on the national news of a student commiting suicide because of bullying?

I played (I never counted, but I would estimate THOUSANDS) of high schools over my life time. I vividly remember schools where a student had committed, or attempted to commit, suicide.

The OP's intentions are GOOD. A magic trick MAY bring a smile or even a laugh, but, it also could be the old "penny in the fuze box".

I don't want to be the "boy who cried: WOLF!", but, in situations like this (we don't know the DETAILS) I feel it would be the wise thing to help the young lady, by bringing the situation to the attention of, for example, a guidance counselor.

I repeat, there "aint no" (read "is not") specific trick or routine that will accomplish his objective. PRESENTATION IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. But more important is getting professional help when needed.

"Symptomatic Medicine" practitioners, roo often, in the Café, offer suggewstions to "BUY THIS PROP"! or do this trick! --"THAT, will solve your problems! --it worked for me!"

Magic tricks are not a universal panacea.
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Yes, you assume right. I have a great respect for you and your work Mr. Oslund and I respect your opinions as well.

Here is a scenario; You believe that magic is real but all your life people have been telling you it isn't. You come to the conclusion that since people say it isn't real, it isn't. You see a magic trick that baffles you and start believing magic is real again, until people tell you it isn't. again.

Suspend the belief that magic is real. That would be suspending belief in magic.

You are correct that we don't know the situation she could just be a hormonal teenager and not depressed at all. I don't see anything wrong with trying to cheer someone up with magic. Also it isn't CTerence that should be worrying about if she is depressed (which she could not be), he is just a kid (unless he is a teacher at the school). The teachers whom class she is in should be aware of mood changes and personality and they should bring it to their supervisors etc. He just wants to cheer her up and get her mind off things if I am reading his posts right. He isn't looking for the holy grail of tricks but suggestions that could lead him to something he likes and something that could cheer her up.

I understand that you are not new to this site like I am and I know that you have been around the block many more times then I, but there is no point for you to come into a thread like this if you aren't going to try and be helpful. And as many people know, presentation takes magic/mentalism/hypnotism to a greater height than those without it, like you said, but he isn't trying to put on a paid stage show for the girl, he just wants to make her smile. Ain't = is not: Ain't no = is not no.

But before this thread derails, I was looking for a trick that was self working and easy, that has a lot of comedy. You should look at Wayne Dobson, his 10 card trick that he does if pretty funny and good reactions from a group of people (I saw this on here in a different thread). In this video the female host could be the girl you're talking about and if you find someone who wont mind being the butt of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xkMoPGXN0

Sorry for the long post.
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Sponge Bunnies, YES! Also find something to do with Angels. To get what I mean, Twilight Angels is good. You say, "You wanna see a REAL Angel?" Then you hand her the pocket mirror before doing the trick. If that does not get at least a smile, then Magic is not the answer.

Something with color. Hot Rod comes to mind. Something cute. Something pretty. Stuff a girl that age likes! Make something appear that she can KEEP! A real pretty quartz stone would be good. Just throwin' a few ideas out there...

Doug
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I support sponge bunnies!

But another one came into mind (I think it's called stargazer)its the trick where you uses 2 rubber band to form a double star, then she pulls the inner star off and the rubber bands takes the shape of a star! Beautiful isn't it?!
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