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Brian H New user 49 Posts |
Does any one know where to get this manuscript?
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kuffs Special user 791 Posts |
Go on Ian Rowland's web site at
http://www.ian-rowland.com and somewhere on a page there is a link to buy this book by mail. Just check out the adress and you have it. hope this helps kuffs |
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Brian H New user 49 Posts |
Does Mr. Andrews have an e-mail address?
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
Quote: I believe not; he prefers to correspond by snail mail only.
Brian H wrote: ... Doug
The Deceptionary :: Elegant, Literate, Contemporary Mentalism ... and More :: (order "Calculated Thoughts" from Vanishing Inc.)
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brownbomber Regular user Edinburgh 156 Posts |
I also saw it on sale at Davenports in London.
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cardguy Inner circle Queens, New York 1171 Posts |
I am very interested in this book test but it seems very difficult to obtain. It would take about 2 months for me to get it.
Frank G. a.k.a. Cardguy
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
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cardguy wrote: I don't see why it should take this long. I sell lots of copies of my book to U.K. residents, and it rarely takes more than 5 days for them to get there from San Francisco. So I doubt that it would take two months to send £5.50 to Val Andrews, and receive the booklet. ... Doug
The Deceptionary :: Elegant, Literate, Contemporary Mentalism ... and More :: (order "Calculated Thoughts" from Vanishing Inc.)
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THOR New user No. California 69 Posts |
I just got this booktest.
All I did was send a ten dollar bill (american cash) to the address on Ian's website and I received it right away. --thor |
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John Macmillan Loyal user Vancouver, BC 226 Posts |
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On 2002-06-02 21:47, THOR wrote: Now that you have it perhaps you can give us your thoughts / opinions on it? |
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cardguy Inner circle Queens, New York 1171 Posts |
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On 2002-06-02 21:47, THOR wrote: Ok, I thought the process was a little more complicated. I'll do the same! Oh, and please let us know what you think about it.
Frank G. a.k.a. Cardguy
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gio Loyal user Genova - Italy 247 Posts |
There is also a discussion about it here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/archive1/vie......start=15
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Ian Rowland Special user London 889 Posts |
As Kuffs and others have pointed out, you can find out all about the VA Unfaked Book Test by visiing my website and going to the Items To Buy page.
There you will see that for reasons best known to himself, Mr. Andrews does not have a website or even an email address, and chooses to correspond only by snail mail. But yes, if you throw 10 dollars his way, he'll send you the manuscript. It's very short, simple and sweet. May I make the same point I do on my site: I have NO financial interest here. I gave this book test a free page ad on my site because I believe in it, I've used it for years (with about 6 books), and I love it. Also, it pains me a little to see younger mentalists saving and saving to buy an expensive item such as MOAB when for 10 dollars they could have a "kick-ass" book test (is that the correct 'youthful' vernacular these days?) with a normal, unfaked REAL book OF THEIR CHOICE. I had one correspondent write to say he had bought the Val Andrews, loved it, and was doing it with one of the Harry Potter books because (a) it seemed germane, being about a boy wizard and all, and (b) more or less everyone seems to have a copy lying around! I know someone does it wth a sci-fi book because he's into sci-fi, so it's kind of natural for him to do it that way. I used to do it with 6 real books all related to strange mental phenomena or intuitive gifts. It's a wonderful thing when you can do a great book test routine with books that suit YOUR personality and YOUR presentational style. It's also good if your first language isn't English, for obvious reasons. The MOAB is an English-only book test. The Val Andrews is globally applicable. Do it in Mandarin Chinese if you want!
www.ianrowland.com . Working Magic.
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cardguy Inner circle Queens, New York 1171 Posts |
I just mailed him my 10 bucks. I agree with Ian, why spend 300 dollars on a book test that is limited to only one book, when you can get the same reaction using any regular book that you please? Based on the description on Ian's site, VA's book test seems just as good as an expensive one, probably even better. I like the idea of other people participating. It gets the whole crowd into it and interested. The selection procedure seems totally random. I am anxious to receive his manuscript. I cannot concieve of any possible way how this would work. It seems impossible.
Frank G. a.k.a. Cardguy
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cardguy Inner circle Queens, New York 1171 Posts |
I just received the manuscript for the VA Unfaked Book Test. It is very interesting to say the least. It is not something that can be done right away. Some preparation is involved, but not to the book that you use (if you know what I mean).
Here are a few lines from the introduction: (Andrews talking to Al Koran) I said, "Al, what would you say to a book test, where the book is completely innocent, the spectator seemingly having a free choice of page and line, yet you would be able to repeat the line to them without recourse to any other properties, gimmicks, or confederates?" Koran grinned and said, "You couldn't do that, unless something else is involved, which you haven't told me about?" It was my turn to grin; I tapped my brow. "Did I mention that you use your mind?" When I first read the principle I thought it was clever, but a little too bold. I thought that a keen spectator might be able to retrace it and kind of have an idea how it works. Then I read the variations. Bobby Bernard's variation made the principle a little more sneaky and subtle, therefore making it more effective. But Terri Roger's variation makes this book test look impossible because it makes it seem like the spectator has thousands of choices to choose from, therefore giving them a sense that they had total control of the situation. If you are going to perform this effect, you might as well go all out and use this presentation. I believe this is also the presentation that Ian describes on his webite. I highly recommend this effect to anyone who is willing to put a little work into a great routine. Remember, you cannot perform this the night you receive it. It takes some time to get it down, but I believe it is time well spent.
Frank G. a.k.a. Cardguy
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
Has anybody seen the Tony Andruzzi magazine
memory test? I have used that for about 5 years and it is really fantastic.
Still with the Chinese circus
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Mr Amazing Special user 617 Posts |
Hmmmm.... this was new information.
Could someone please answer if the participants experience any other objects than then book/s? I'm not to fond of e.g dice, stick-in-knives, "number-randomizers" etc in book tests. /Matias |
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Quentin Inner circle 1020 Posts |
I purchased Val's booktest from the recommendations here. I think it is excellent and Terri Roger's ideas take it into the miracle class. In many ways it is similar to the Chan Cansta booktest (effect wise).
Matias, there is nothing else involved except the book and the book is completely ungimmicked. And it works in Swedish |
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cardguy Inner circle Queens, New York 1171 Posts |
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On 2002-06-15 04:11, matias wrote: The beauty of this book test is that NO OTHER PROPS ARE USED. Yes, its true. All you need is the regular paperback book that you want to use. You don't write anything down, the spectators don't write anything down. You hand them the book, they verbally pick a page and line (no dice, cards, pencils, pens, paper, nothing), and after they read that line you read there mind. Andrews actually tells you in the manuscript not to take out any props while you perform this, or the directness of the effect might be ruined. Oh, the spectators can examine the book all they want because its just an ordinary book. You just have to go to the bookstore and take your pick. As you can see, the book itself during performance has nothing to do with how you obtain the information. You can perform it blindfolded if you want (but I don't know why you would). I hope I have given you enough information. I'd like to thank Mr. Rowland for putting a reference to this effect on his website. He could have chosen to keep it all to himself, but thanks to him I now have what I believe to be one of the best mentalism effects I will ever perform. And it was only 10 bucks!
Frank G. a.k.a. Cardguy
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Mr Amazing Special user 617 Posts |
Ok, I'm back on the "convinced track" again,
Thanks everyone for answering. I'll send the letter I wrote some time back to mr Andrews /Matias |
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fordkross Loyal user 209 Posts |
Let me be contrarian, herew. Yes it's much cheaper than MOABT. Or other linear tests. Yes it's nearly imprompu. Yes they can keep the book afterwards.
But to get those benefit you sacrifice being linear. It's not turn to a page, it's call out a number. It's not look at a word. It's here how we'll determine word. My mentor, used ti refer to that method asmultiply by your grand mother's brassiere size. If those methods fit you, and price is a consideration, go for it! from Ford Ford has a better idea |
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