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ralphgironda Loyal user 291 Posts |
I think would benefit the whole group which is why I didn’t private message.
Mr. Cassidy , in the past (in his books and at his latest lecture), talked about opening with an effect for the whole audience (major) and then for the next effect doing something for one spectator on stage (minor). Mr. Cassidy, what does the rest of your structure look like for your act? 1.Opener – Whole Audience 2.Chronologue – 1 person 3.Name / Place Routine – 2 people 4.Card Memory – 2 People 5.4DT – 3 People Also, how do you manage people coming and going off stage after effects? Does this slow down the act? When people are coming on and off stage constantly is it ugly? I bet your thoughts on this subject will benefit the group. Thank you so much for your insights! You are a wealth of information! |
Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
How you get audience members to come up and off stage should be structured just as any other component in your act. Any "ugliness" is due to your own lack of structure just as in any effect. Seems like a rather elementary question or perspective.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Ralph-
First of all, the sequence you listed is not the sequence of my act. The card memory, when I use it, is last- either as a planned closer or as an encore. Otherwise I finish with the drawing duplication phase of 4DT. In Chronologue and the Name/Place routine, no one comes to the stage. The participants simply stand at their seats. I use this approach whenever possible given the particular venue. The reason for that is simple- I don't like people coming back and forth throughout the act. You can see the way I handle audience volunteers on the various video clips on my YouTube channel. (See link in my signature below.) You'll notice that there is no dead time while volunteers are doing their tasks or coming to, or leaving, the stage area. I never finish my show with any volunteers on stage. Also note that I never have any participants sitting or standing on stage behind me, as I've seen many mentalists do lately. Unless absolutely necessary for a given effect, it distracts attention from the performer and is awkward for the participants, who will often start fidgeting. (And, no, it's never "ugly," because I only pick the best looking people as participants!) Good thoughts, Bob |
ralphgironda Loyal user 291 Posts |
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On 2014-01-16 14:16, mastermindreader wrote: Great thoughts Mr. Cassidy! Thank you so much for all the advice, especially picking good looking people! Hahaha that made me spill my coffee! Thanks again! |
mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
And, except for the card memory, I ALWAYS pick attractive women as participants. (It's bad enough that the audience has to look at me- they don't need a bunch of ugly fat guys standing up there with me. )
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innercirclewannabe Inner circle Ireland 1597 Posts |
"I never finish my show with any volunteers on stage".
Bob, I remember Michael Weber on one of the seminars with you making that point regarding your DD on 4DT. When you use 4DT as your closer, do you now ask her to go back to her seat before revealing the drawings, hence, you're the only one left on stage? Robert.
Tá sé ach cleas má dhéanann tú sé cuma mhaith ar cheann.
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ralphgironda Loyal user 291 Posts |
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On 2014-01-16 14:36, mastermindreader wrote: This is the stuff you can only learn from Bob Cassidy! |
mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2014-01-16 14:42, innercirclewannabe wrote: No. I keep her on stage when the drawing are revealed because her reactions are important to the effect. But my act just doesn't end with her standing there next to me. She is thanked and leaves the stage while I go into my brief closing remarks to the entire audience, consisting of a thank-you and an inspirational and/or comedic line. I then take my applause standing alone on stage |
dmoses Inner circle 2261 Posts |
Bob... I am flummoxed by your generosity... flummoxed.
Honestly, posting your skype user name and hourly consultant rate would serve you better. d
"You're a comedian. You wanna do mankind a service, tell funnier jokes."
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innercirclewannabe Inner circle Ireland 1597 Posts |
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On 2014-01-16 15:01, mastermindreader wrote: Thanks.
Tá sé ach cleas má dhéanann tú sé cuma mhaith ar cheann.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2014-01-16 15:08, dmoses wrote: I try not to get too much into the consulting aspect here, but thought it might be a good plug for my on-line workshop (see link in my signature) where this sort of thing is discussed regularly. BTW- I love the word "flummoxed" and rate it right up there with "flabbergasted." (As in, "I was flummoxed when he gasted my flabber." ) |
Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On 2014-01-16 14:36, mastermindreader wrote:
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Andre Hagen Inner circle 1432 Posts |
Flummoxed...flabbergasted...how about gobsmacked? Gotta love those Brits!
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein
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Marqus Special user 899 Posts |
Bob,
Trying to stay in line with the above topic: BUT first, I must say that your Penguin lecture was GREAT (and I say that even though I have seen or read most of the stuff you covered since I have most of your audio seminars, ebooks & the Mental Miracles DVD). I recently sprung for your newest hardcover book, Artful Mentalism of Bob Cassidy 2: Fundamentals. Forget the effects! it's ALL the other hidden & subtle information that you provide. Amazing insights! (The effects are terrific, too but they are secondary to the other stuff IMHO.) OK, now to the point of my post: Would you consider a 'straight ESP card test' as a 'major' effect for the audience? By that, I mean I remember on a Mark Strivings video (I believe for Psi Parties) he opens with the 5 ESP cards in 5 manila envelopes, one card in each envelope. He explains what the envelopes contain & then holds up an envelope. He then asks the audience which ESP symbol they think is inside that particular envelope. He draws the consensus choice on the front of the envelope & then goes through the same procedure for the other cards. When finished, he opens each envelope to determine & show the audience how they did. A show of hands would reveal if anyone got the choices all correct. These audience members would then be ideal volunteers for later experiments in the show. What I want to know is do you think such an effect is considered a major effect. It is involving the whole audience, right? I'd love to hear your thoughts, as you have, for the most part, become my 'go-to guru & master mentalist'. That's right - mentalist, not Methodist. Mark |
mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Yes, Mark. I'd consider that to be a major effect. Again, the major or minor designation simply refers to whether it involves the entire audience or just one or a few volunteers. I've always felt that most, but not all, major effects are ideal openers. I would not, for example, use Q&A as an opener, nor would I use anything that was too procedural or involved to much mental effort on the part of the audience. (The object is to involve as many as possible, as soon as possible, and as quickly as possible.)
People have asked me if my Methodist story is true. Yes, it is- it really happened just as I relate it in my act. (That's why I sometimes laugh when I hear other people telling the story as if it was their own personal experience. ) |
Marqus Special user 899 Posts |
Bob,
Thanks for your input. I just started the 'Staging It' chapter in the book. Legendary stuff!!! Thanks again |
Marqus Special user 899 Posts |
Bob - Mr. Cassidy,
Please PM me when you get an opportunity. Thanks, Mark |
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