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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts 
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On 2014-02-02 15:04, critter wrote: I feel 100% sure he has people manage his money, or at least assist him to do so. Surely that is par for the course for anyone with his sort of wealth. Heck, even I have people who help me manage my money and I imagine it is the same for many other people on this forum. Having said that, much of his charity work has nothing to do with donations of money. Many of them revolve around donating his time and free concerts.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2014-02-02 15:32, balducci wrote: Interesting Q. A couple of possibilities that are pure speculation on my part: 1) Maybe, since he lives in the USA now, he hasn't renewed his Canadian license (assuming he had one), and it expired before his American one did. 2) Maybe as a visitor to the USA, one can drive on a Canadian license, but after becoming a legal permanent resident, one is required to obtain an American license.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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And his PR people don't help schedule his appearances? Nearly every celebrity does charity work. It's good image management. I question: why stop there when it comes to image management? Small things matter too, not just photo ops.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Who is he anyway?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6136 Posts
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Your son?
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6136 Posts
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If he got locked up for a few months the way someone who wasn't a celebrity would, he might not be so cocky.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2014-02-02 19:58, motown wrote: As near as I can tell, Bieber is charged in Miami with drunk driving, resisting arrest and driving with an expired license. If he is found guilty on all three counts, how much time do you figure he should get? You think that anyone else on these charges would get "a few months" in jail? Dunno. What's the standard in Florida?
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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On 2014-02-02 19:03, LobowolfXXX wrote: FWIW, regarding his residency status, I just found this: http://swampland.time.com/2014/01/24/why......-bieber/ "Bieber resides in the U.S. on an O-1 visa, which is reserved for “individuals with an extraordinary ability in the arts or extraordinary achievement in motion picture or television industry.” According to federal law, only violent crimes and sentences longer than 1 year result in a re-evaluation of visa status." And from a comment at the same link: "The problem here is that US immigration policies are highly based on socioeconomic background, racism, and racial profiling. Despite popular belief that he's a permanent resident this kid is here on a O-1 visa, which is a visa given to athletes, high profile academics or other people the US government deems "exceptional" in their professions."
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Rico's allegation of racism notwithstanding, it's not so easy to deport someone on an O-1 (even when he's not white). There's an interesting link from the article, too, suggesting that the difference between the treatment of Bieber, who can stay in the country, and various workers who were removed following employment raids, is not that they're here illegally while he's been lawfully admitted to the country and has certain concurrent rights, but that he's white and they're not (which is kind of funny given what is mostly a catch-and-release discretionary policy). If I have to read too many more of these race card comments, I'm going to end up supporting Bieber, which I don't really want to do. At any rate, it may be the case that even on a non-immigrant visa, one has to get a driver's license, since although one is not ostensibly "permanent," one is generally sticking around longer than tourists, for whom it would be quite impractical to require a driver's license. Again, I don't really know what the deal is with the license expiration. Maybe it was just his Canadian license that expired.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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On 2014-02-02 21:28, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: You think that anyone else on these charges would get "a few months" in jail? Dunno. What's the standard in Florida? Ummm...Being shot under Stand Your Ground laws?
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Might be interesting to know how many non-whites get O-1 status.
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1777 Posts
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The law, as applied to the rich and famous, is completely different to the law that applies to us mere mortals. As an example, I draw your attention to a story I shared about the ex-Kiss guitarist, Ace Frehley. It's on this page, the 6th post from the top:
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2014-02-02 22:40, landmark wrote: I agree...I think it would be very interesting.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2014-02-02 22:50, arthur stead wrote: Must be nice! As an aside, I had that first Frehley's Comet album.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6136 Posts
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Quote: Maybe he could spend a few months with you Magnus since you seem to think he's such a good kid.On 2014-02-02 21:28, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2014-02-03 00:19, motown wrote: You read too much into what I wrote. He should be treated the same as anyone else in his position; neither better nor worse. He did seem to be a pretty good kid a couple of years ago. He looks like a spoiled brat at the moment--but that's not a criminal offense.
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6136 Posts
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That's the point Magnus, he get 'a treated better. And sorry he's more that a brat.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2014-02-03 22:09, motown wrote: How has he been treated better? He's facing charges. He hasn't been in court. What's better?
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Does his mum know?
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6136 Posts
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On 2014-02-03 22:49, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Go out and try the same thing Magnus. Do everything he did. And will see who comes out with the better deal. Go ahead, make my day.
"If you ever write anything about me after I'm gone, I will come back and haunt you."
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