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On 2014-02-08 22:27, magicblademan wrote:
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On 2014-02-05 16:49, Sashac wrote:
Guys if anyone has a problem doing a 100000 % perfect mercury card fold, I have a method that will help you. PM me if you would like. Don't get excited, I am NOT going to be teaching you a different finger placement, I am going to teach you a method for preparing the card, so it is 100000 %
Just like to say I tryed this method that sashac kindly shared,and I must say that it makes it a whole lot easier to get it looking perfect.Thanks for the info ,much appreciated.

Shaun



Ditto.
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On 2014-02-08 15:17, itsmagic wrote:
This looks REALLY good. The method is pretty clear how it's accomplished on the video demos. (Arnau's is fake, Jordan's is not, Shin's live performance is real.)

Shin's live performance may be real, but his trailer is not.

Once again, he tries to fool his fellow magicians to sell more tricks. What a shame.

And shame on you once again, Shin Lim. You apparently haven't learned anything since the last time you faked a demo.
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Movie man, seems you have a personal grudge against him. Even if the MCF was faked, the switch itself in the video isn't faked, that is how it actually looks in real life, and that is the selling point of the DVD, the actual switch! and multiple sources have already said it looks the same as in the video so I don't see how he is being deceptive to gain more sales.
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On 2014-02-09 02:48, Fatgumbo wrote:
Movie man, seems you have a personal grudge against him. Even if the MCF was faked, the switch itself in the video isn't faked, that is how it actually looks in real life, and that is the selling point of the DVD, the actual switch! and multiple sources have already said it looks the same as in the video so I don't see how he is being deceptive to gain more sales.


No, I have no personal grudge at all.

I just know he has faked his demos before, and I can see that he's faked this latest one.

I consider him to be dishonest in selling his products. If the switch looks that good, then he should demonstrate it without faking things. But he hasn't--it's clearly faked. That is dishonest and disrespectful toward his fellow magicians.

Edit: I've asked him multiple times here, but Shin Lim hasn't responded--can we please see a high definition version of the trailer? That will help us know if it is real.
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If you judge already it is not real, why ask to see HD is it real?
And besides you, does anyone else want to prove it? In stead of say US you shall use I.
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On 2014-02-09 02:58, MovieMan wrote:

No, I have no personal grudge at all.

I just know he has faked his demos before, and I can see that he's faked this latest one.

I consider him to be dishonest in selling his products. If the switch looks that good, then he should demonstrate it without faking things. But he hasn't--it's clearly faked. That is dishonest and disrespectful toward his fellow magicians.

Edit: I've asked him multiple times here, but Shin Lim hasn't responded--can we please see a high definition version of the trailer? That will help us know if it is real.


If you need a high-definition version of the trailer, and a frame by frame analysis to distinguish if the trailer is real or not, then it doesn't matter either way. As long as the trailer accurately represents the actions required to do the effect, then it's fine (whether the person is actually performing those actions or not).
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On 2014-02-08 15:17, itsmagic wrote:
This looks REALLY good. The method is pretty clear how it's accomplished on the video demos. (Arnau's is fake, Jordan's is not, Shin's live performance is real.)

Shin's live performance may be real, but his trailer is not.

Once again, he tries to fool his fellow magicians to sell more tricks. What a shame.

And shame on you once again, Shin Lim. You apparently haven't learned anything since the last time you faked a demo.


I gree with you 100%, first video is fake, no doubt about it.
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His switch trailer is most definitely fake.
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I don't know about you, MovieMan, but as long as the switch does what it says, I don't care since I'm not going to use the demo routine.
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I have seen "The Switch" I can tell you that it looks and works exactly like the video shows.
All this speculation is Bazaar!Oh, I forgot to mention the gimmick will last a very long time and you can make another at no extra cost. it is fantastic!!!
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On 2014-02-09 02:48, Fatgumbo wrote:
Movie man, seems you have a personal grudge against him. Even if the MCF was faked, the switch itself in the video isn't faked, that is how it actually looks in real life, and that is the selling point of the DVD, the actual switch! and multiple sources have already said it looks the same as in the video so I don't see how he is being deceptive to gain more sales.


No, I have no personal grudge at all.

I just know he has faked his demos before, and I can see that he's faked this latest one.

I consider him to be dishonest in selling his products. If the switch looks that good, then he should demonstrate it without faking things. But he hasn't--it's clearly faked. That is dishonest and disrespectful toward his fellow magicians.

Edit: I've asked him multiple times here, but Shin Lim hasn't responded--can we please see a high definition version of the trailer? That will help us know if it is real.


Have you considered that by showing a HD trailer with no cuts etc he might tip the method? Probably what you want so as not to purchase it. I'm really getting bored of your type on here. Now bore off.
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I didn't want to get involved in this, but I can also testify that this looks identical to all trailers. I still stand with my original thought that nothing is faked. Even more so now.

I'm really disturbed by how many people are saying "this is DEFINITELY fake" or "100% fake"...

You shouldn't be saying that unless you DEFINITELY know it's fake with sufficient proof. All of the "proof" I've seen so far has been ridiculous. The photos of the signatures look EXACTLY the same to me. I have no clue what everyone sees that I don't. All of you just WANT this to be fake. You're all trying so hard to provide "proof" to yourselves. But that proof is non existent.
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Now gents calm down.

The real drama in this thread is trying to determine whether Shin will finally come across or will we be be duped again. Although I did like his effect called "Think."

The effect itself is secondary to this judgement on Shin.From the posts I suspect that about 60% will think the effect is great and the remainder will feel duped.

Only time will tell. Anyone know when "Switch" becomes available?
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On 2014-02-09 14:07, afuoco wrote:
Now gents calm down.

The real drama in this thread is trying to determine whether Shin will finally come across or will we be be duped again. Although I did like his effect called "Think."

The effect itself is secondary to this judgement on Shin.From the posts I suspect that about 60% will think the effect is great and the remainder will feel duped.

Only time will tell. Anyone know when "Switch" becomes available?


If you were referring to my comment, I'm completely calm. Just stating an observation. I'm not emotionally invested in any of this.

And if I'm not mistaken, it comes out next weekend
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If you are calm, then why the CAPS?
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On 2014-02-09 14:16, tomsk192 wrote:
If you are calm, then why the CAPS?


That's to emphasis words. Not for yelling. Consider it a lazy mans bold word.
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Fair enough.
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Afuoco Wrote:
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The real drama in this thread is trying to determine whether Shin will finally come across or will we be be duped again.
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Curious… Shin has released the following products in the past two years.
Which do you feel you were “duped” on? In other words; which of these did NOT do what the trailer claimed it would. In my opinion, they all do what they claim.

Shinag
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Think
The Vanishing
52 Shades of Red
SSS
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I guess we'll find out by the end of this week.
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Paw

You would feel that they all do what they claim because you like Shin. Nothing wrong with that. However:

I own three of these:

(1) "Think"--I like it
(2) "SSS"-Totally worthless and misrepresented on the ad video because it has so many restrictions--duped.
(3) "52 Shades of Red"--the ad on Penguin and Hocus Pocus says nothing about DIY. In fact if you read it, one comes away with the thought that everything is supplied.I know a lot of owners went thru the DIY work. Not me--duped.

Can't wait for "Switch" to be released to see what the verdict is.

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