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Fire Starter Inner circle 4809 Posts |
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On 2014-02-16 16:26, drphil wrote: Alas, I think you may be true on your assuption, and a true matter of fact,it is a shame that all or most of what we do some delinquent hooded silly boy,or GIRL will expose what we do,BUT IT IS HOW ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we PERFORMERMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM IT,that my friend, will SINK the ship,so to speak. |
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
I agree the performance is the art ,even the simplest move when done with misdirection or when not expected can fool. But if you add in an unseen gimick or utility that helps create an impossible situation all that is left is to have a great presentation or routine. I've seen mixed reviews on almost every effect even Inferno was placed in the worse tricks of 2013. And went on to win the best trick award. Not all will like or use this as it is not the most practical switches. But that is not its claim.
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
You know, a top change will achieve the same moment of wonder if 'performed' properly, precisely because it is NOT done under heat, when 'performed' properly. Knock yourselves out with this miracle.
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Stucky Inner circle I'm Batman! 1355 Posts |
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On 2014-02-16 16:26, drphil wrote: The problem with that logic is when effects like this come with gimmicks or items. You can't make the gimmick and keep them then just sell off the DVD by itself. (This one especially due to the special hard to find nature of the included gaffs) If the DVD is being sold that means the whole thing has to be given up lock, stock, and two smoking barrels.
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
The required item is very easy to come by, I have bought 20 for £2.57!
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
Shhhh, Mark! Crikey, don't tell everybody!
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
No problem with my logic. A lot of magicians will buy this just to learn the secret. Once they learn how this works their curiosity will end. Like I said some will use this some won't. And some will resale it and make the own gimmicks. The fact that some will resale an effect should have no bearing on if you will like it or not. If you just read the reviews you will get a better assessment on the value of this or any effect.
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
I think those that buy this and sell it on know!
Before anyone asks I need more to make up a number of gimmicks for Blackpool, I'm bound to be doing this a lot so want to make sure I have a few with me. The gimmick should stand up to a lot of use but I just want to be sure.
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magicbyswh Inner circle North East Tennessee 1548 Posts |
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On 2014-02-16 19:11, drphil wrote: Wow pay 30 for the secret. Give it a couple more weeks and someone will reveal it on youtube. China magic shops will be selling the DVD video download for 2.00
Creator of Cereal Brainwave, Creator of the Tossed out Book
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
I'll bet you are fun at parties.
James Quote: On 2014-02-16 20:09, magicbyswh wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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The Russian Mentalist New user 30 Posts |
Still wondering if anyone can answer my previous question; Can I use this to borrow a bill from a spectator and then switch it for my own bill?
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Steve Hook Inner circle Raleigh, NC, USA 1266 Posts |
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On 2014-02-16 20:09, magicbyswh wrote: Wow....what the heck kind of comment is that?
Like Bonnie Raitt said, "I miss Little Feat more than I miss being 8 years old." Thanks for the concerts + recordings, Lowell, Richie, and Paul!
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Saturn UK Inner circle 2658 Posts |
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On 2014-02-16 23:26, The Russian Mentalist wrote: Yes you could use a borrowed note. Just like you can have any card from the deck selected the chosen item can be any card etc. Reading your post it could be read you want to switch a note for another note, this is not a switch like a normal bill switch that could change one note for another.
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
I hope this secret is not revealed. And only those that have purchased it will know how it works but I'm afraid that's wishful thinking. All to often we here of another effect that has been revealed. It hurts every one and in the end we all loose.
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Stucky Inner circle I'm Batman! 1355 Posts |
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On 2014-02-17 02:29, Steve Hook wrote: An honest one...
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magicbyswh Inner circle North East Tennessee 1548 Posts |
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On 2014-02-16 20:51, Xiqual wrote: Just stating the facts. It is what is is. Look at all the china shops online. They sell downloaded videos stating you are getting the secrets only. They sell for a couple of dollars. No gimmicks but you will receive the video instructions. Within 2 weeks The switch will be listed on these sites in china. That is what they do and there is no control over it.
Creator of Cereal Brainwave, Creator of the Tossed out Book
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Sashac Inner circle 1041 Posts |
Just got this, watching now. All I can say (for now) is that the dvd is the most confusing thing I have ever watched in my life. Don't worry, this is just so you can see how it works, use this version throughout.
he then makes the "real version" and half way through he says: I'll only make half of it, so you can see how this works. It's so much worse than it sounds. I like that you have 2 viewing angles at the same time, that's good. Method is the first thing you would have ever thought of, he just added a tiny convincer. Music is annoying as well. Please, from now on, written instructions! |
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
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On 2014-02-17 06:56, Sashac wrote: That's what I thought too. I think he was trying to simplify the teaching but it went wrong and really complicated what could have been a very simple tutorial. Shim Lin would benefit by using a director to story board his videos. As for the demo, after watching the DVD, it does look like he faked it. Maybe for the same reasons that he owned up to before (i.e. so it couldn't be backtracked)... but he really didn't need to this time |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
So is it genuinely any good? has anyone actually performed this for people?
what are the space restrictions/angles? how adaptable to other objects is it please? what are its benefits over say paperclipped or a simple annemann one handed s**tch? even a bobo... cheers
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Rcitgo Special user Emporia,Va. 738 Posts |
I agree .He keeps jumping back and forth thru the explanation.Plus why not tell us how to make the real gimmick instead of the practice gimmick first.We can practice with that.I understood from the dvd how to make the gimmick but the way he went about explaining it was very confusing.He jumped back and forth way too much.He needs to plan his dvd explanations out instead of just winging it.All and all I think the method for the switch was great.
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