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You got a lot of nerve to say you are my friend--you'd know what a drag it is to see you:

Bob Dylan pitching for Chrysler at the Super Bowl.
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I liked it but I knew right away it was going to upset a lot of people. Because a lot of people think Bob Dylan owes them something, or something. They ought to know by now Bob Dylan does what he wants no matter what anyone else want him to do, which is one of the things that makes him a legend. And that's the name of that tune.
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Funny I was just about to post my favorite commercial of the night: Bob Dylan.

I thought the spot was brilliant. I particularly liked the background music which was Dylan's Things Have Changed.
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On 2014-02-03 08:49, Marlin1894 wrote:
I liked it but I knew right away it was going to upset a lot of people. Because a lot of people think Bob Dylan owes them something, or something. They ought to know by now Bob Dylan does what he wants no matter what anyone else want him to do, which is one of the things that makes him a legend. And that's the name of that tune.


But being a legend doesn't put him above criticism either. But Dylan sold out years ago, but nobody bothered calling him on it.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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But being a legend doesn't put him above criticism either.



Of course not. Does anything, put anyone, above criticism nowadays? Has it ever?
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I used to talk with a guy who was a sales manager with Fender instruments which was owned by Columbia Broadcasting at the time, who Dylan recorded for. He was told to go to the recording studio and get a shot of Dylan holding a Fender Guitar. Dylan refused to pose. A quick call to his bosses "Mr. Dylan doesn't want to pose." The bosses said, "Oh, Mr. Dylan doesn't want to pose does he?" The guy came down to the studio, pulled Dylan aside for 5 minutes, and suddenly Mr. Dylan was ready to pose. But he did it complete Dylan style: he had them pose him holding a Fender Bass, something he never played. . My friend took the shot. and here it is: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colum......ore.html
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On 2014-02-03 09:31, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:

Dylan sold out years ago.



Starting when he walked off Maggies Farm in 65 at Newport I suppose.

"I try my best/To be just like I am/But everybody wants you/To be just like them."
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Neil Young called it a couple of decades ago.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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I thought yesterday's commercial was pretty good. A LOT better than the commercial he did about 8 years ago when he had the pencil thin mustache and cowboy hat and was selling perfume or something.
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Bob Dylan doing a Victoria's Secret ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onYLwFr2OZY
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Thanks for that Magnus. Thanks Neil Young. At least someone gets it. It's about class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QsNXd57Ppw&t=30s
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Class?

I don't think Dylan needs to apologize to anyone.
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I don't think Dylan needs to apologize to anyone.


And honestly, I don't think he needs anyone defending him either. He's given plenty. And of all the ads he's done, and the way he's let his music be used, this one is probably the least upsetting for me. To me it's vintage Dylan anyway, I'm glad it upsets some people. If there is a guy you should never expect to adhere to your own personal idealism, it's probably Bob Dylan. If that means you disregard the man or his contributions, so be it.
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My favorite commercial was the Time Machine commercial. Unless the woman on he Go Daddy spot was really quitting her job.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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I don't think Dylan needs to apologize to anyone.


And honestly, I don't think he needs anyone defending him either. He's given plenty. And of all the ads he's done, and the way he's let his music be used, this one is probably the least upsetting for me. To me it's vintage Dylan anyway, I'm glad it upsets some people. If there is a guy you should never expect to adhere to your own personal idealism, it's probably Bob Dylan. If that means you disregard the man or his contributions, so be it.

It's neither asking him to apologize, nor disregarding the man or his contributions, nor am I saying he has no right to his own actions; what I am saying is that it is classless. And to applaud him for his edgy free spirited out of the box anarcho-libertarian rebellious move of making Chrysler advertisements is pretty laughable to me.
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So, is the complaint that he's doing any ad, or an ad for Chrysler, or an ad for any corporation, or an ad for an American corporation, or what?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Calm down. He did Cadillac ad 5 years ago for Pete's sake. Now all of the sudden your tearing all your posters down because of this ad?
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I liked it but I knew right away it was going to upset a lot of people. Because a lot of people think Bob Dylan owes them something, or something. They ought to know by now Bob Dylan does what he wants no matter what anyone else want him to do, which is one of the things that makes him a legend. And that's the name of that tune.


I posted this some time ago. It was a hilarious (unsuccessful) attempt to get Dylan to say that those who disliked Obama did so out of racism (a.k.a. The "Garofalo Protocol."

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/reply......"e=1
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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He has done many ads: Victoria Secrets, Cadillac, Chrysler.

Is it classless when Jerry Seinfeld does a commercial?

Dylan always called himself a Song and Dance Man. Never knew a Song and Dance man to turn down a commercial.
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"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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