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For professionals this is a business expense. For the rest of us it is an expenditure. That's why I charge for shows. The money I make goes towards stuff like this which in turn goes on to make more money... It's sort of a self financing hobby (until July, then it gets serious)

So, as a non-performer they can be expensive. See this as motivation to "get out there"... So 3 $100 shows or 2 $150 shows or even 6 $50 shows is all it takes... Try even 30 $10 palm readings, c'mon get your game on.
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As magicians we are used to purchasing gimmicked coin effects that deal with existing (or historical) coins...coins that are, or were in circulation. The point is, there was a 3 dimensional starting point. I don't believe this the case here. These coins are art, produced at a relatively small number from the ground up based on a historical rendering. I have no idea what goes into the manufacture of a coin from scratch, but I can't believe it's inexpensive. Not to mention all of the research and creativity that has gone into the production of this effect, which is - I believe - much deeper than a gold silver transposition.

How one defines "fair" will always be somewhat subjective. And, the notion of cost vs. price and worth vs. value is ages old. Still, I've always felt that Prof BC has led the charge in delivering substance for a very fair price.
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I definitely empathize with Chris. The almost $300 price tag does make one pause before hitting the pay pal button...... but I couldn't resist and quickly jumped into the queue.
Today I received the advance PDF instructions for the effect. The routines are everything one has come to expect from a Professor BC / Lebanon Circle release. I know the coins will also be exceptional quality and I am anxiously awaiting their arrival.
But what had my pulse racing was the news (below) that the realm of the Faerie's series ties back into Doppelgänger.

"The capstone release for this series will be a very, very special book. This will be an edition of Grimm’s Fairy Tales from the Edwardian period. Each tale in this book will read just as a classic fairytale, but each will be crafted to play in a particular Realm of Faerie routine. This will allow the performer to read a tale from the book whilst performing its magic in the real world.
This book will come with complete instructions for crafting a full show around a Faerie theme and will also include stories that use props and handlings not technically part of the Realm of Faerie series (such as The Alchemist’s Bane, GYRE, The Haunted Doll, as well as utility items such as switch boxes/bags and thumb tips that you may already own, and also standard handlings such as billet tears and palming to bring the tales to wondrous life).
What’s more, this Grimm’s Fairy Tales will be part of the Doppelgänger library, and can be used with all of the Doppelgänger range of effects (including one-book mindreading effects in your
Realm of Faerie show): an atmospheric book test for younger audiences! This Grimm’s ‘super Doppelgänger’ will also include gaffs built directly into the book to assist you with handlings and effects whilst remaining fully examinable and as clean as the other Doppelgänger books.
Finally, this book will feature original stories crafted by Professor BC that mimic the famous Grimm’s tales and will highlight original illustrations created by Dan Baines in the style of an Edwardian children’s book. A genuine collector’s item! (coming in 2016)."

A "Grimm's super Doppelgänger with Artwork by Dan???" SIGN ME UP!! We certainly can't deny the exceptional brilliance our dollars help to perpetuate.
And the hard truth is that at almost $300, though out of the reach of many, It probably still doesn't compensate the Prof and Dan for the hard, hard work it takes to bring these items to fruition and ship them all over the world.
We are very fortunate to have creative geniuses out there like the Prof, Dan, Vic and Rick. In a perfect world they would be very, very rich for all their wonderful creations.

Just a thought... maybe there can be some sort of frequent fliers club type discount for those use that buy will buy every Dopps and RotF release??
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...or throw 50c a day in a jar and you will have enough money by 2016...
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Ha! You are right Tim.
There is such great value in the Prof BC releases.
Frequent buyers discount is complicated.
I'm sure he prices them the best he can.
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On Mar 18, 2014, horus1 wrote:
And the hard truth is that at almost $300, though out of the reach of many, It probably still doesn't compensate the Prof and Dan for the hard, hard work it takes to bring these items to fruition and ship them all over the world.

Dan Baines has two kids so I'd like to think he's making a profit...for their sake! Smile
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When it comes to most expensive purchases I'm remind of an infomercial I saw on late night TV in my preteens. It was for a book called 'Rich Dad, Poor Dad'. I have no idea if the book was any good but one bit of advice from the commercial stuck with me "The difference between a rich guy and a poor guy is a poor guy thinks I can not afford that, and a rich guy thinks how do I afford that." Like Mr Dowd says its just a matter of finding the plan that works and going after it.

My question is do I really need all three coins? I know with nightmare coins you only need what Docc Hilford called a sun and moon coin. And based on what I read about the heavy mental effect I'm not too sure it needs all of the above either.

Also can I pre-order the Grimms Fairy tale Doppelgänger, just tell me how much, I'm certain I don't need all of my organs I could sell a few.
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When it comes to most expensive purchases I'm remind of an infomercial I saw on late night TV in my preteens. It was for a book called 'Rich Dad, Poor Dad'. I have no idea if the book was any good but one bit of advice from the commercial stuck with me "The difference between a rich guy and a poor guy is a poor guy thinks I can not afford that, and a rich guy thinks how do I afford that." Like Mr Dowd says its just a matter of finding the plan that works and going after it.

My question is do I really need all three coins? I know with nightmare coins you only need what Docc Hilford called a sun and moon coin. And based on what I read about the heavy mental effect I'm not too sure it needs all of the above either.

Also can I pre-order the Grimms Fairy tale Doppelgänger, just tell me how much, I'm certain I don't need all of my organs I could sell a few.


Nice story.

You cannot pre-order Prof BC effects.
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The coins are works of art. They chink together nicely, no flat sound like you get with some gaffed shimmed coins (i have shimmed quarters and British 10pence pieces, they just don't sound like coins when chinked together with real coins). They have a nice weight too. They are made of 24 K gold and sterling silver. The routines that are supplied with the coins are excellent, but I'm sure people will soon come up with their own routines and stories.

As fr the price, which has been a real talking point on here, yes, you could buy 10 items for the price of this one.However. You will be performing items that hundreds of performers are doing in their repetoire. I'd rather have an an item that few performers have. The first 100 purchasers will get a bonus of two extra coins, one gold, one silver. The coins are the size of a United States Half Dollar.

5 star prop.
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Received mine today and I was blown away. Simply stunning quality all the way from the manufacture and feel of the coins, the box, and even the practice coins (included in the first 100 sets per the ad).

Here is a perfect example of where photos do not do reality justice. These props are simply mesmerizing, and for me, the coins almost have an illuminated glow to them when the light hits them...just like the moon.

I know these babies are pricey, but boy, if you are able to afford them you will treasure them and hopefully use them often. They are truly unique in such an artful way.

Well, well done.
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I found a very nice XIXth century purse for the coins. Perfectly sized.

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And (oh, my ears and whiskers!) is that the original Sabine Baring-Gould's volume of The Book of Were-wolves? I am enormously impressed! (This is on my list as a possible Doppelganger--but it is very, very difficult to lay hands on a copy these days for any price.) I am moving to the Surnateum, I've decided. Set up a cot and rent me a room.

Beautiful purse, too.

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Yep, it's an original edition (I knew you'll notice the detail). You'll looooove the Surnateum...
I also have Werwolves by Elliott O’Donnell (1912) and The Werewolf by Montague Summers (1933).
Plus, the purse perfectly fits the box. Smile

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You should take a look here, it's in French but you've a very small list of books in the Vampire and Werewolf section of the Library.
http://logs.surnateum.com/bibliotheque-vampirique/
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You should take a look here, it's in French but you've a very small list of books in the Vampire and Werewolf section of the Library.
http://logs.surnateum.com/bibliotheque-vampirique/


Extraordinary and wonderful! The bright green glow that you see in the west is my envy, Christian.

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I'm currently writing a story based on my set. The purse gives me a more logical approach of the use of the wooden box...
I won't say more at the moment.
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I found this little article about the mystery in the Cassini Moon map itself very sweet.
Look to where the cliffs of the Heraclides Promontory should be!
http://cathyhaynes.wordpress.com/2013/04......oon-map/
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A Moon Goddess maybe!
Very interesting.
My story is written in French and this detail may be of some importance...
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I find myself desiring a large print of the Cassini map of the moon.
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For any of you that already have these coins, is it possible to do the muscle pass? In the pics it doesn't look like there are ridges which is fine. Just really wondering if a muscle pass is possible with them. They are exceedingly beautiful.
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