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fastjack711 New user 11 Posts |
Don't waste your money on neodymium unless you want to break a finger or pick up a car. I have no clue what a chop cup is , explain the application to me and I will direct you to the proper rare earth material. As far as the dice being made, no problem. I am not very familiar with these magic web- sites , can you email or talk to me privately.Any dice can be magnetized. https://www.fastjack711.com/
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Nikita Regular user 120 Posts |
Very nice routine from Derren Brown with magnetic dices https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAJHUv2JS7w
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Our only experience with magnetic dice was with Backgammon, where the hustler straps large powerful magnets to the knees and raises them underneath the table. As I recall the dice used here were opaque and probably not too difficult to make. The equipment was hired and the hustlers actually lost because they did not know what they were doing.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Gamblingman007 New user 65 Posts |
Was magnetic juice dice easily spotted by really good players in the backgammon games that you played in or was around?
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Gamblingman007 New user 65 Posts |
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On May 8, 2017, Merenkov wrote: You have to get your dice re-magnetized. Not using juiced dice periodically de-magnetize them or make them very weak. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
It was only once. The mark was John Spencer the world champion snooker player and he didn’t spot it. Mind you he suffered from double vision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spencer_(snooker_player) I don’t think the gaffed dice were used constantly but rather switched in and out by the way.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Gamblingman007 New user 65 Posts |
Is juice dice relating to backgammon that noticeable while playing, meaning can an average player realize that something is not right that’s going on? Forgive me if I’m asking you a stupid question, it’s only because I don’t know how to play the game, I’ve only seen it played while hustling at playing card games. I know definitely that I can switch the dice being played on any body playing against me.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
If one gets too lucky, one will “wake the dead” as they say. A move can be undetectable physically but a good backgammon player like a good poker player or whatever will notice unusual patterns instinctively and get sus if he does. One needs to be a good player and then all one needs is a small edge. When somebody has seemed too lucky we have seen players grab the dice and check them in straight backgammon games.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Gamblingman007 New user 65 Posts |
Tommy thank you for your advice. You’ve always given me good advice since I’ve been here. Thanks again.
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JasonEngland V.I.P. Las Vegas, NV 1728 Posts |
A common way of cheating with mag dice or weight at backgammon is to give the sucker the gaffs! One die pulls low numbers and the other pulls high numbers. The sucker gets far fewer doubles than chance alone would dictate. Since backgammon is essentially a race, that's enough in the long run. Of course, all the issues with switching them in and preventing detection apply just as they do when the cheater is using the gaffs.
Jason
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts |
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On Dec 5, 2018, tommy wrote: They do make Juice Joints that are actually built into a backgammon set and controlled via remote control. Obviously, they are more expensive than strapping a permanent to each leg to control polarity.
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RayLogan New user 84 Posts |
I'm hoping by the middle of April (maybe sooner) to release my chopped dice in two sizes: 19mm approx. 3/4 inch and also 25mm almost one inch. Red or white opaque. They are very very strong and will hold to chop cups. The one problem is your chop cup gimmick could either have north or south poles on the inside, so the die will either stick or repel. A set could be made with one having north on the attraction side and the other die south on the attraction side, plus a non-gimmicked one. If you are getting a custom made cup you could send the die to make sure it attracts. I'll post in the for sale section when they are available.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Thanks, that sounds interesting.
Backgammon precision dice used by the money players here are normally 13mm or so. https://gammongames.uk/precision-dice Note they are round-cornered. The problem with the gaffed sets I have seen is both dice stop rolling at the same time which looks unnatural.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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RayLogan New user 84 Posts |
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On Mar 14, 2019, tommy wrote: Hi, The dice I am making aren't loaded to roll a number, they are loaded to attach to a chop cup or devise outside of the cup. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Yes, I was not talking there about the dice you are making.
I don't know any game where they use 25mm dice - which is about the size of my doubling cube.
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RayLogan New user 84 Posts |
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On Mar 15, 2019, tommy wrote: OK, sorry Tommy Ya 25mm dice are big, almost one inch along a side! Great visual for a chop cup though... |
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MaXiMoN Regular user Morocco 125 Posts |
Greeting
I need an affordable normal looking (non metallic) dice that will work with a normal chop cup Thanks for the help |
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Merenkov Elite user 413 Posts |
I started this thread 6 years ago, and finally found what I was looking for. Martin Lewis sells a trick called Die-Namic, which includes a couple of magnetic dice (and one ungimmicked). It's a great trick, you can find it for $30 at various magic shops. But he also occasionally makes a premium version out of razor-edged casino-style dice (white with black spots). They are incredible - the gimmicked dice are indistinguishable from the non-gimmicked die. They aren't the transparent-style casino dice, but I actually like them better. He sells this set for around $95 (remember you are getting two gimmicked dice). They of course work for Die-Namic, but the real bonus for me was that they worked with my chopped dice cup. Score! The catch is that he only occasionally makes these sets, so you have to contact Martin directly and just wait until he decides to make more...
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The Dowser Special user Canada 763 Posts |
Thanks for the "heads up".
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