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fengenroll Loyal user NYC 226 Posts |
I thing IT magic looks so cool, but it looks so hard(?)But I have been searching around for some beginner IT information in eighter books or DVD's..
Any suggestions on the most basic IT magic would be greatly appreciated. :happyxmas: F. |
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Eirik Special user Oslo 879 Posts |
Hello Fengenroll,
If you are totally new to magic, I would personally wait a while before you get into IT magic. I belive there are steps you should consider first, like getting into Impromptu magic(things done more or less with everyday objects). Also learn basic slights with cards and coins - this will help you build up your selfconfidence on performing magic for people. And when you feel confident enough with the basics, you should expand your horizon and thake a leap into the world of Invisible Thread. Magicians like Michael Ammar, Jon LeClair, Kevin James and Finn Jon are the guys to search for when you feel you're up to it. -e-
...As long as i`m not a world-champion at anything, the great reactions of doin` magic will do just fine.....
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Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
IT is very difficult. The effect is great. I only use it for one or two of my tricks. I agree Eirik, become proficient with other magic first.
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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silverfire9 Veteran user Rochester Hills, MI 323 Posts |
While I wouldn't say that IT magic is especially difficult, it's a good idea to learn other magic as well. Eirik's approach seems a sound one, and I'd go that route first.
When you're ready to learn IT magic, Michael Ammar is one of the best teachers, and he's got a three volume video series on IT magic. Comes in DVD and VHS and is very good. It doesn't have absolutely everything, but it covers all the basics of IT magic, including the major subdivisions. The series is titled Easy to Master Thread Miracles. LeClair, Finn Jon and Kevin James are all good sources, too, though I'm only personally familiar with Ammar. So far, anyway. Good luck with your magic. |
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Dbzkid999 Elite user Canada 407 Posts |
Or you can get Ammar's Thread Miracles videos.
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magical65stang New user Turlock, CA 73 Posts |
IT is what got me started in magic. it was one of the first things I started to learn and if you use an ITR then the handling is relatively easy. Of course, once things start to fly you better have something to back it up with. Just play with it in front of a family member or friend, my wife helps gives me ideas on how to make it even more incredible. Ammar's DVD's will help a lot too. Good luck
"I'm not a liar, you just don't see the truth."
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Magic from A to Z Elite user Sweet Home Alabama 482 Posts |
I personally enjoyed Ammar's third video. Check out the mint to mouth... I do it to the music theme of 2001 a Space Odyssey..
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Robert52 New user 23 Posts |
I would have to agree . If your interested in IT go with Michael Ammar's thread series . They are great , lots of information on these ,You cann't go wrong . Also check out the other forum on the Café on string and things .Lots of good post here too. Love my morning Coffee
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spatrick Special user Tom Sawyer let me whitewash these 517 Posts |
If you want to get into elastic loops check out Losanders latest DVD, The Art Of Levitation. Its pretty good, and his hookup variations make the elastic loops easier to work with. He also includes some of his IT bubble magic secrets as well.
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JackDaniel Veteran user nevada 376 Posts |
Fengenroll, wait with it. Start learning easier routines first.
Jack.
Visit the magic of Vegas and your life will change forever..
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fengenroll Loyal user NYC 226 Posts |
Thanks for the replies.
I guess I will start off on easier ground before getting into IT. I've been looking into more Impromptu magic and I'll stick to that for now. I heard Ammar's DVD, and LeClair DVD are both great. At least I know what to get when I feel capable enough. F. |
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jmsilhy New user Mex 68 Posts |
I just got LeClair's DVD (Who's afraid of IT) , can't wait to watch it and I'll let you know. But I'd like to know where are you now, do you already know a few tricks with IT? I also bought Fearson's floating cigarette routine and well done is a great one! Check it out at http://www.downloadmagic.com there's even a video there. Hope it helps...
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fengenroll Loyal user NYC 226 Posts |
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On 2004-01-10 12:00, JackDaniel wrote: Just came home from a visit to my only magic friend, he told me exactly the same thing. Thanks all for the input, atleast I know what to get. F. |
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jmsilhy New user Mex 68 Posts |
Ok fengeroll, I can tell you now a few things about the DVD. It does show you how to do some amazing stuff, I wouldn't say to wait until you learn a lot of magic, but really get comfortable with one or two tricks, they don't even have to be floating things or anything, just moving things with IT will drop jaws! The DVD comes with a supply of IT and some putty (I didn't like it a lot though, I prefer magician's wax)
So if you really like IT, try this DVD and really take the time to practice some of the tricks and I think you should be pleased. If you'd like more info on the contents let me know and I'll tell you. |
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Martin Reinertz Regular user 125 Posts |
Maybe one additional advice on IT magic:
When I got started with magic it basically was because of IT - went to my local magic shop and the owner told me, NOT to get IT but other effects first (because he thought IT was to difficult for me at that time). However, I didn't listen to him and just got some IT, and an ITR (a very cheap one that didn't last long) and an instructional video on the ITR (Vol.2 from the Sorcery Shop, the producers of the original ITR). And guess what? I had a lot of fun experimenting with it, although it took about a year until I could finally present an IT trick. Then I became so crazed about it that all I was looking for were new IT routines, when my girlfriend suddenly said to me: "If everything hovers, floats and flies it starts to get boring. Can't you do something else?" Get the point? IT magic is great - no doubt! But use it sparingly; make it the highlight of your performance! In other words: go ahead and also learn other tricks... |
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powen New user 88 Posts |
I also started with IT and agree with Martin - when you do eventually get around to learning it, make it the highlight of whatever you are doing, because an IT effect done well is very very difficult to follow...
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JackDaniel Veteran user nevada 376 Posts |
That's why you'll have to learn some basics first, so it flows with the rest of your routine, you can't just go from a selfworking card trick to a Fearson's floating cig...You need something magical in between.
Learn basics with cards, coins, tt's, mentalism first, then you learn basic IT. Jack.
Visit the magic of Vegas and your life will change forever..
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armagician Regular user 146 Posts |
I beleive anyone can work with IT. (With pratice that is) I don't like any trick with ATRSU get some wolly nylon. Try it
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BerkleyJL Veteran user Chicago, IL 397 Posts |
I still haven't gotten any IT work ready for public performance. The LeClair video is great (where I learned), but be sure you practice with video or a mirror and be VERY critical of yourself.
It is very difficult to make something appear to be floating in the air, as opposed to what is actually happening. You'll see what I mean once you get started.
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
If there was one criticism I had about the Ammar videos it was they seem poorly prepared compared to his other series. They are the best thing out there for an overview, but they lack the quality I've come to expect from Mike.
John LeClair's DVD is based on his book. It is a great way to get started with IT work because he doesn't just focus on levitation effects. In fact, I think most of the book covers animation effects as opposed to levitation. I've had a great time playing with variations of the moving knife effect. The invisible deck handling is very amazing since you can use a borrowed deck (though it takes a lot of practice to do confidently) and his living/dead test plays very creepily. I don't know if all of this in on the DVD, but I highly recommend the book. |
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