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GusVanNostrum
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Even though I am waiting for this book as well -

I sincerely URGE everybody in this thread to be decent.
We do not need to call the police nor to be nasty.

Please.

We all wish this will be resolved in a good way.
If you are really desperate, please contact Mark in person and ask for a refund.
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I don't care about the money. Just tired of him lying and stealing money. If you have delibratly sold this book since 2012 knowing it will not be released you are a thief and you have to take the consequence. People are way to patient. We are takling maybe over 10 000 pounds. But of course if he will finaly release the book it would be another question. But there are no certain signs that’s going to happen.

I hope you don’t think I am nasty for contacting the police Gus. It is just my sens of justice, and what I find acceptable behaviour from him.

And for the record. I have asked for a refund 6 months ago. No answer.
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I never preorder I think its best to wait till tried and teseted, or we will all have more draws full of even more magic we don't use or sell. Smile
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If you wanted this, there was no other choice. It was preorder or miss out. The first two Mentalism Reveals books were great and I didn't want to miss out on the third one. Allegedly only 100 copies would ever be available. But at this point I also doubt that this was ever true. No way to be sure.
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On Apr 1, 2018, Bartelli wrote:
If you wanted this, there was no other choice. It was preorder or miss out. The first two Mentalism Reveals books were great and I didn't want to miss out on the third one. Allegedly only 100 copies would ever be available. But at this point I also doubt that this was ever true. No way to be sure.


There are always second hand copies available
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There are always second hand copies available


Please don't spread the word about second hand copies being always available as I'm afraid that even the first-hand copies won't be available.
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Does anybody have news about this? I know from a trustworthy source that Marc does indeed read this thread and is laughing with his friends about this. I am not amused.
In the mean time he is publishing and selling other new material.
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Does anybody have news about this? I know from a trustworthy source that Marc does indeed read this thread and is laughing with his friends about this. I am not amused.
In the mean time he is publishing and selling other new material.


Sorry to call you out on this

But that is total rubbish

Just from a logic stand point

Why would Mark (and who is Marc anyway) be laughing?

That trustworthy source is just you not understanding the situation but wanting to seem like you are in the know

This is not a fun or good situation for Mark

If he was laughing about it, do you really think Michael would have bothered to engage him further?

Your post is really silly

Anyway I hope you guys who have waited so long get a book to justify the wait. My guess is, if it's such a struggle, the book itself may not be as good as ppl hope

All the best, x
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Duster, I get your point. But wouldn't you be laughing after you cashed in 10000 GBP for an empty promise?
The right thing for Mark with a K to do is to be honest to his customers. If he cannot deliver he should refund the 10000GBP, if he can he should give us a date and stick to it.
He does not respond to me contacting him. Shouldn't I feel scammed? I guess I'm interpreting this behaviour in the wrong way.

I thought that he meant what he promised (multiple times). Silly me. Why would you trust someone with a good reputation and who puts out some great material to deliver on a promise? My bad. I'm sorry.

I admit that I haven't heard Mark laughing myself. The last time we met he promised me (to my face) that the book would have been ready about a year ago. Since I said no when he asked me to show him and his family around in Brussels, he hasn't responded to my inquiries. My fault completely! He says he doesn't care about the café. Neither do I and the only reason why I'm still here from time to time is for this thread. And I know that he knows about this thread. And he most probably feels bad about not delivering what he promised. But that doesn't show at all. Kudos for Michael Murray for giving us an update. But that should have been by Mark Elsdon himself.

So come on Mark, I am very forgiving. Give us an HONEST update. I can understand that some things are more important and **** happens, but what is it, more than 5 years now???
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Did he give out loads of free stuff to ppl who ordered this, to say sorry for the original delays [a million years ago]?

I thought he did - but that may have been some other creator [with the same pre-order type mess like this]

If I understood this correctly has he not offered ppl refunds, and some ppl taken them - but many have decided not to - as they have waited so long they maybe feel too invested....

I really can't imagine that this has been put off so much - for any reason other than it's a struggle and the end result is not likely to be 'worth the wait'

If he won't give refunds - I thought he offered them to all and anyone - then maybe [if there is some other stuff of his you like] he will offer to change your payment for other works of his [?]

Again I can't see him laughing about any of this... he might have been laughing if he took the 10k, and easily knocked the book out - then he would have enjoyed the situation. But this - he's no doubt felt bad about it, and gets hassle from it, and no doubt lost more than he gained from it - so I don't think he's laughing at you.

Though the victim here is not Mark - but people who pre-ordered a book that has missed it's deadline, and the next 30 deadlines after that
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Can't believe this is still going on.
There's a simple solution. Ask for a full refund. If that fails to materialise take action in the small claims court. It's a simple process and I'm fairly sure you'd win.
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Sadly despite several messages to Mark asking for news he has not responded to any messages since March 20th so it is with regret that I can’t bring you any further news on this as I had hoped. I had 100% faith in his personal word to me in February but sadly that time has elapsed. Such a sad situation Smile
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This is pathetic and shocking to say the least.

Well, I have an opinion and a prediction.

Opinion - Cheats and criminals have invaded our little world and we passively allow this to continue, as he continues to transact normally with other dealers.

Prediction - I have an uncomfortable feeling that probably one of the posters on this thread is an alias for Elsdon, although I would love to be wrong.
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On Apr 12, 2018, NeverMind wrote:

Prediction - I have an uncomfortable feeling that probably one of the posters on this thread is an alias for Elsdon, although I would love to be wrong.


Who on this thread has been supportive of Mr Elsdon [?]

If you can find anyone - then maybe check their history and see what they have been posting elsewhere

I can't remember anyone - but I could be wrong - who could be Elsdon

So I predict that you are wrong, and are almost as lazy as Elsdon to suggest so... But you wanted [loved to be] wrong, so congrats...

Of course if I'm wrong... I'm glad I don't own any hats I would then have to eat
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BREAKING NEWS! I quote Mark: "Just a quick message with the news you may have thought would never come - MR3 is finished."
The book should be in our inbox on Sat. 28 April 2018! I haven't read the whole email and I won't be sharing the contents here for reasons people who have received it will understand. But there is an apology and a (very) small gift. I don't believe if the gift is a sufficient compensation but at least it is something.
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BREAKING NEWS! I quote Mark: "Just a quick message with the news you may have thought would never come - MR3 is finished."
The book should be in our inbox on Sat. 28 April 2018! I haven't read the whole email and I won't be sharing the contents here for reasons people who have received it will understand. But there is an apology and a (very) small gift. I don't believe if the gift is a sufficient compensation but at least it is something.




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I see a pattern -- I too pre-ordered another of his hyped products back in October 2017.
Was going to be shipped November 1st.
Gave me the same excuses (private issues, incompetent printer, Armageddon, et al) everybody else heard in this post. I thought it was strange because I'd been an Elsdon regular (not the past tense).
Received screenshots of the finished product too...

But why should I worry: it's only been nearly half a year overdue. I can wait another 5 1/2 years!
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Just 2 days before it arrives!
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I just reread Marc's latest email, and I have read to the end this time. There is a nice bonus included that I didn't notice that may possibly almost make up for the wait. Possibly almost. Smile
Looking forward to tomorrow's email.
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I have no dog in this show as I NEVER pre order and these days all the money I have is being saved for my wife's knee surgery. But whatever the deal is with this character no freebee or "gift" I think would have been worth the wait.

To those who did wait let me just say that you people have the patients of the Saints. I would have gone to the law.
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