The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Grand illusion » » This base (4 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
Craig Dickens
View Profile
Veteran user
379 Posts

Profile of Craig Dickens
Vanishing Princess of Thebes!! I had the Mark Wilson one built by Thayer that was later used by Copperfield in The Magic Man. Sold it years back. Here is a clip of me performing it in the round back in the day. In the show I played an obnoxious Phantom character who made cast members vanish. We had the box come out covered and the cover cloth draped over the back for the presentation. Especially with a tiered audience above it was fantastic and a fooler. Base was around 5 1/2 feet long and 3 feet deep. Short legs that screwed on. Beautiful hand painted box design with elaborate pin-striping inside and out. Gimmicks and release made to be operated off of the hoist hook-up and I adapted it for me to control.
https://vimeo.com/87914823
e-mail at:magicaldickens@aol.com
website: www.dickensmagic.com
Blair Marshall
View Profile
Inner circle
Montreal, Canada
3661 Posts

Profile of Blair Marshall
Great post Craig!! Nice to see the illusion "in action".

Blair
Michael Baker
View Profile
Eternal Order
Near a river in the Midwest
11172 Posts

Profile of Michael Baker
The table on mine is flat top, although in the photo there is a sheet of plywood laying on top when the photo was taken. The important thing is that this has a mechanical inclusion that makes it different from many bases commonly used. If you look closely, you'll see a short section of strap, similar to a seat belt. Although this would normally not show in normal use, it serves a very defined purpose. I could not tell from Craig's video if this feature is used on his prop.
~michael baker
The Magic Company
Craig Dickens
View Profile
Veteran user
379 Posts

Profile of Craig Dickens
Michael-- they are the same mechanics. Flat top platform. Spring feature with two straps in the back. Normally wouldn't work in the round till we added the cloth gag I mentioned.
e-mail at:magicaldickens@aol.com
website: www.dickensmagic.com
magictim
View Profile
Veteran user
Lake Charles, LA
396 Posts

Profile of magictim
The Magic Makers Building Your Own Illusions DVD set shows how to build a base used in their crystal casket that has a vanishing load area.
Michael Baker
View Profile
Eternal Order
Near a river in the Midwest
11172 Posts

Profile of Michael Baker
Quote:
On Mar 9, 2014, Craig Dickens wrote:
Michael-- they are the same mechanics. Flat top platform. Spring feature with two straps in the back. Normally wouldn't work in the round till we added the cloth gag I mentioned.


Got it! I missed the purpose of the cloth!
~michael baker
The Magic Company
Magicjg
View Profile
Elite user
477 Posts

Profile of Magicjg
Mars harpies you assumed right. I was considering this base for a completely different illusion I'm working on. As nice as the insta babe is, not my kind of trick.
natmagic
View Profile
Veteran user
USA
301 Posts

Profile of natmagic
Instant babe is not that thin looking as people like to think, the promo video is carefully shot. Lighting is very important with this illusion as there is lots to hide before the girl is produced and the table returns to its normal 'state'
Blair Marshall
View Profile
Inner circle
Montreal, Canada
3661 Posts

Profile of Blair Marshall
This brings into the discussion the whole issue of illusions with a taper base, and where that taper should be. For best results it depends on where the illusion will be used, and where the sightlines will be.

Blair
JamesinLA
View Profile
Inner circle
Los Angeles
3400 Posts

Profile of JamesinLA
Above or below depending on if the audience is above or below. Or double tapered as a compromise.

Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
James FX
View Profile
Regular user
Virginia
178 Posts

Profile of James FX
I had to pull out my copies of Well's "The Great Illusions of Magic" books to follow along (the smaller book has all the text and larger book contains the shop plans). The illusion is referred to as the "Crystal Box" (page 105), great design and concept- the plans get the creative juices flowing! Michael your table is a dead ringer for the drawing in the plans. I forgot about all the treasures in here, oldies but goodies.

Regarding tapered and where to do so... I have always preferred tables to look more like furniture and less like props, and to me a tapered top looks like a magic prop. Anyone know of virtually undetectable rise/tapers that still resembled real world furniture?
Blair Marshall
View Profile
Inner circle
Montreal, Canada
3661 Posts

Profile of Blair Marshall
I think the step design that Wakeling is credited with can be made very close to look "normal". It can have a VERY slight taper underneath and have the "tray" sitting on top of the table. I have seen some that look very good.

RE: the Crystal Box (old style) is virtually the saem base as the Princess of Thebes which is what Michaels photo shows.

Blair
James FX
View Profile
Regular user
Virginia
178 Posts

Profile of James FX
Thanks Blair, I'll look into Wakeling's designs.
Michael Baker
View Profile
Eternal Order
Near a river in the Midwest
11172 Posts

Profile of Michael Baker
Quote:
On Mar 15, 2014, Blair Marshall wrote:


RE: the Crystal Box (old style) is virtually the saem base as the Princess of Thebes which is what Michaels photo shows.

Blair


Yes, they are pretty much the same thing. This table design can be used for a number of purposes, just change what sits atop. The table for Phantom Cage (also in the same books) is different but probably just a versatile, and probably more so in that it may be better for surrounded performance. There are also strong similarities between it and an Asrah table.

Height of the legs can certainly be altered on the PC table, but probably not wise on the CB/PoT table.
~michael baker
The Magic Company
Blair Marshall
View Profile
Inner circle
Montreal, Canada
3661 Posts

Profile of Blair Marshall
Actually Michael I have a Crystal Box (30"x30") illusion on 36" legs, it uses the exact same principle as the CB and PofT. What I like about it is the illusion can be performed surrounded and once the girl is produced you have a clear box sitting on a 4-5" "table" (all around) and it can be viewed up close, and the "secret" would be hard to discover by a laymen.

Blair
Michael Baker
View Profile
Eternal Order
Near a river in the Midwest
11172 Posts

Profile of Michael Baker
Thanks for the insight, Blair. If I had thought further, I would have realized the two effects are opposite one another, and that this would work. (Michael slaps forehead...)
~michael baker
The Magic Company
James FX
View Profile
Regular user
Virginia
178 Posts

Profile of James FX
Blair and Michael, whenever I see your post I look forward to reading them. We have so much to learn from the two of you, thanks!
Blair Marshall
View Profile
Inner circle
Montreal, Canada
3661 Posts

Profile of Blair Marshall
James, this is the photo that I sent to Michael, so I thought I would post for all to see. Once the girl is produced the base is AMAZINGLY thin!

Blair

(P.S. Thank-you for the compliment!)

Click here to view attached image.
Michael Baker
View Profile
Eternal Order
Near a river in the Midwest
11172 Posts

Profile of Michael Baker
Thanks, James! I too, look forward to reading Blair's posts. If I only knew half of what he does...

~michael
~michael baker
The Magic Company
James FX
View Profile
Regular user
Virginia
178 Posts

Profile of James FX
Woah, amazingly thin indeed. Although I understand the principle used, it still looks impossible! That, is magic Smile Thanks for sharing!
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Grand illusion » » This base (4 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.04 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL