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Jeremini New user 39 Posts |
I have rerpoted this thread to the mods maybe something can be done.
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mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
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On Mar 26, 2014, RandyWakeman wrote: You can't be serious... Jeremini: I'd be quite happy if moderators delete all posts that have nothing to do with Roberto Giobbi from this thread, including mine. Otherwise we, together, may well start a new thread on Giobbi. Mr Wakeman: I feel you still owe an apology to Jeremini for doubting his bona fide just based on the fact he misspelt 'Roberto'... |
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Bobbycash Special user Australia 694 Posts |
Roberto's humble nature really shines in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5iORdwo-gQ |
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mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
Bobbycash,
thanks for reminding me I forgot to mention a documentary on him (and magic in general) shot by the Italian Swiss television some ten years ago. This is the link to part 1. It's not dubbed so everyone speaks his language (Giobbi in Italian, Tamariz in Spanish and so on...) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvW5SBqzd9g mlippo |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
Thought I'd point out that his excellent Introduction to Card Magic can be downloaded for free when you join the IBM. Along with access to The Linking Ring magazine, this is another good reason to get a membership.
Marty |
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KokoB Loyal user 257 Posts |
I think everything not related to Card College should be deleted But on Wizard review Steve said it best arguments over magic go back centuries the best part is old timers patting themselves on the back & not giving the newer magician credit on their work. Roberto Giobbi's books are great his deck switch book is amazing if you don't have it get it...
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Quote: On Mar 26, 2014, RandyWakeman wrote:
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
I just want to get something straight (which, as we all know, is quite difficult to do with the extremely knowledgeable mlippos, Jerriminnis, etc.) There are many excellent writers in magic - Giobbi, Minch, Carpenter, Racherbaumer, Kaufman, Swain (forgive if I omitted anyone, and I'm not mentioning writers of the past - my dear friend the late Bruce Elliott, for example) - that's a given. (And I'm sure the "knowledgeable" lovelies here probably never heard of most of them.) Repeat - that's a given. Has nothing to do with this thread, as those lovelies would like you to believe. Those I just mentioned are all excellent writers which, again - and this is what I'd like to get through those thick skulls - has nothing whatever to do with my posts/responses. I will continue to mention my books WHENEVER I feel it is apropos, helpful, to do so. That has nothing whatsoever to do with the capabilities of other writers.
Unfortunately, incidentally, the threads have been deleted, but mlippo is an out and out liar - he did say he burned all my books. Not important - I'd just as soon lovelies like that didn't read my books anyway (like Mkoeppel - a perfect negative example) - I'd rather not have "jealousies" like that in mind when I write/teach. I'd be quite happy if ALL posts by people like mlippo were deleted, or simply not allowed in the first place. But, since that can't be I will simply quote the above from Randy W. whenever any one of the "lovelies" make what I consider a put-down silly, un-called for (Mkoeppel-like) post. Since they feel they have the "choice" to do those posts, then I feel I have the right to do this. Either that, or the following from a May 31, 2013 post here on the Café... (and this will annoy/upset the mlippos, Jerriminnis, no end!) "Harry Lorayne IS the man. Nobody else even comes close. He was wearing out decks of cards with the greats when most of us were eating crayons or weren't even born. Any magic book ever written owes a humble nod to his countless and priceless contributions. Harry defined the style that all magic books strive to be but most fall short of. He has written for the greats. He has dined among the greats. He has fooled some of the best. He is what many of the well-known names in magic would call a master. He is a genius in his own right and brought the genius of many others to us through his many selfless works and the art of magic would not be the same without him. He is a scholar, historian, collector, writer, mentor, and a gifted performer both with sleight of hand and as a memory expert. There is a piece of Harry Lorayne in every magician who is worth his weight in salt. And if you disrespect him, well, you got it coming to you. Harry, you ARE the man." So there!!!
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jeebs9 Regular user 190 Posts |
I'm new here.. so I don't want to step on anyone toes. But before this thread I had never heard of Harry Lorayne's books. Maybe I'll take a look after Card College. But I just don't understand the back and forth going on here. But the other thing I don't understand is bring up another book in a whole different thread. Is this usually aloud on this forum. Because I know on my sports forum this thing would of been closed a while ago.
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Jeremini New user 39 Posts |
MrLorrayne I am NOT upset that people like to talk about your books.
I AM upset that you will not let us talk in peace aout other books we like. The Magic Café is a BIG PLACE and I don't know why we cant have our own discussion. This isn t magicians helping magicains.I don't know what I did so that the discussion I started can get ruind like this. I wonder if the mod can do anything or fi they just don't care. :( |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
If they cared they'd never allow posts from people like you and mlippo, etc. And how in the world can someone in magic never have heard of any of my books? Sorry, but I can't see that. But that's okay. What, in MY OPINION is NOT okay, is that someone with that lack of knowledge has the audacity to post what he considers good information. Incredible. People like that should read, learn, listen, pay attention, and then, maybe, post when they have even an inkling of the knowledge needed to post. I mean, isn't that obvious? What the h*ll good do forums that are supposed to help other magicians do when sillinesses like that are allowed?
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
And let's get something else straight, Mr. jerriminnnni - the third post in this thread mentions me and my books!!!!!!!!!! Why then is it wrong for me to come in to the thread? Seems as if you keep overlooking that. I'm mentioned in a thread, I will respond. WHICH I DIDN'T DO UNTIL I WAS MENTIONED FIRST. Got it? Do you understand that at all? And, perhaps four or five other magic books/writers were mentioned before I mentioned my books, how come you don't rave about that? So, what the h*ll are you talking about?!?!
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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jeebs9 Regular user 190 Posts |
Wow...... Like I said... I'm pretty new here (and to magic). I've been doing this for 2-3 months (for friends and co-workers). I'm more like baby at this point (more like the sperm meeting the egg). The other day in different forum I mistaken called Paul Harris... Paul Green (it was about Classic force dvd) lol. So yea I don't know much about magic lol. But I just didn't understand the forceful post. I was just backing the book that opened up my eyes to magic. Maybe one day I'll read your book. Again I'm sorry if I stepped on any toes.
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Jeremini New user 39 Posts |
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On Mar 26, 2014, Harry Lorayne wrote: Posts 'from people like me'??? Why is this happening??? All I wantedtodo was put the discussion on the card college books and Mr Giobbi. I wonder if you wouldlike it if somebody talked about other books ina discussion dedicated to you, mr Lorryane. Mods ARE YOU READING THIS? |
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RandyWakeman V.I.P. Plainfield, ILLINOIS 1617 Posts |
For those that sign on under fake names and like to "complain" about arguments, it always takes at least two to get them going. As far as "topics," it isn't that hard to understand what this forum is for. For those who don't know, it hidden in plain sight: "Serious discussions surrounding tricks and effects which use pure skill and sleight of hand."
The original topic (if there really was one), would have been deleted or moved in the first place if the rules belated being asked for were quickly enforced. Surely everyone knows there are dedicated forums for book reviews, PDF reviews, DVD reviews, trick reviews, and so forth. It is just more "fun" to make up the rules as you go along, apparently. When fan-boy forum troll threads appear by newly registered whacko-ini's who cannot bother to use a spell-checker (afford-ably priced at free), post in the wrong forum to start with, and then starting yelping for moderators, it often doesn't go extremely well. That shouldn't be wildly surprising. It is also apparently more fun to throw stones and make random accusations or assertions when you cowardly hide behind a fake screen name. It isn't really news, for those who aren't ashamed to use their real names and ask sincere questions DO get sincere, helpful answers. It has been like that ever since Steve Brooks asked me to register here in 2001. Things haven't changed much since then. |
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Jeremini New user 39 Posts |
I give up.
I will goto another magic forum. :( |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Jeebs9: Can only repeat - "...should read, learn, listen, pay attention, and then, maybe, post when they have even an inkling of the knowledge needed to post." My OPINION, buddy, just as you stated your opinion.
Jerrrminini: I would love it if other books were mentioned in a discussion about me - which has happened probably thousands of times over the decades and which, of course, you have absolutely no knowledge of. And as is usual in "trollerdom" you have completely and simply overlooked my post where I pointed out that my name/book was mentioned BEFORE I POSTED HERE. Why is this happening? Simple. YOU ARE CAUSING IT TO HAPPEN! And yes, I'll repeat, since you don't listen anyway - "If they cared they'd never allow posts from people like you and mlippo, etc." Why the mods allow people like you in our forums is beyond me. You obviously have no idea what it is you're talking about, you pay no attention to responses, you're a waste of time. I do have a simple/obvious piece of advice for you (which, of course, you won't pay any attention to, and you'll just come in with another "load of wit") - obvious advice - PUT A SOCK IN IT! You started a good thread, now let me repeat - PUT A SOCK IN IT, and let people discuss the fine points of Giobbi's (and yes, my) books. Obvious, no?
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
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On Mar 26, 2014, Jeremini wrote: Thank God!
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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jeebs9 Regular user 190 Posts |
I'm still pretty confused at to what is going on here lol (and leaving it alone).
I just hope everyone has a magical day. I'll see you around in the future. |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
What in the world is confusing about "...should read, learn, listen, pay attention, and then, maybe, post when they have even an inkling of the knowledge needed to post." I was lucky - when I got into magic, not that I would have done it anyway, there was no internet, no computers, no way to make public statements that might make you look the fool. I had been in magic a couple of decades, plus, and was about thirty years old, when I was asked, by Lou Tannen, to write a book on card magic. I was quite hesitant about it (although I did have a bit of writing experience - my book, How To Develop A Super-Power Memory, was written in 1955 and published in 1956 - and it's still "out there") - but didn't know if I had enough "magic" experience. Fortunately, it seems as if I did. Anyway...hopefully you'll get over your confusion soon. Do have a magical day, and I look forward to seeing you around in the future. HL.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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